Let The Bible Speak - Is Baptism Essential For Salvation?
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@jehugodsman In no way is baptism essential for salvation. Salvation is of God, NOT dependent upon man's works... it is merely a symbol. We are completely justified by faith, not by faith and a ceremony.Rom. 5:1 Eph. 2:8 Romans 4:1–11. If we are saved by faith, then we are saved by faith when we believe, not when we get baptized, otherwise we are not saved by faith. I can give numerous examples.. but please dont preach this.
dmorris41 1 month ago
Don't let any preacher lead you into error re baptism and the Holy Spirit. Baptism is so important that Jesus actually got baptised Himself.
Being baptised in Jesus name by full immersion in water & being filled with the Holy Spirit r essential to ones salvation. Read the book of acts a few times, study what the diciples did regarding salvation. Don't let peoples actions put you off who r not walking the Christian walk properly that between them & God. Let God be true & every man a liar.
jehugodsman 2 months ago
Baptism, was central to Johns the baptists message, Jesus's message and the apostles messsage after Jesus was risen. The Philipean jailor & his whole household were baptised in the middle of the night.
Acts 19 Paul met some diciples & aksed them if they were baptised, they said they were baptsied into Johns baptism. Paul then asked them if they had the Holy Spirit, they said they had not even heard of this. Paul then baptised them in Jesus name& laid hands on them & they spoke in tongues.
jehugodsman 2 months ago
Why do I get the feeling that you are a legalist? So let me ask you, do you observe Christmas and Easter? Can you justifiably say that those who aren't water baptized are not saved? Why do I know so many people who have been baptized in the Name Of Christ, yet they curse at work, or are fornicators, etc? If baptism was the "saving grace", the "about face", why are so many who have been baptized, carrying on in a worldly manner? What counts is living a life of LOVE, not one of religion
chedachz68 3 months ago
Correction. Meant to indicate that baptism is our first reaction to faith; not our only reaction (in case any readers read my prior statement as such). Obedience is a reaction. True, we don't have to follow a strict law as the Jews did but there's so much in the new testament by the Apostles that confirm Christianity is a way of life; not just a belief.
JaeZ76 3 months ago
Jesus died on the cross for all who believe - BUT -scripture by the Apostles (who He gave authority) teach we are to take that belief and react to it by being baptized. (Mark 16:16) The Epistles are all about Christian living to those who believe. James wrote that faith without works is dead so how to you reconcile with what Jesus said about 'faith only' and the Apostles? Why would the Apostles write commandments if nothing more is required than simple belief?
JaeZ76 3 months ago
When one interprets the faith-only scriptures, they dismiss the whole picture by dismissing all the verses that reference water baptism when believing followed by receiving the Holy Spirit. Read the story about the Ethiopian Eunuch and Cornelius, examples of two Gentiles who believed and were baptized in water. Those who believe that faith alone saves bear the burden of explaining why water baptism followed belief in these examples and why it's not applicable today.
JaeZ76 3 months ago
my question is... Do you Believe that John the Baptist is in Heaven and was Saved...I KNOW I DO JOHN THE BAPTIST SAVED AND IN HEAVEN... HOWEVER NEVER BAPTIZED... HE TOLD JESUS TO BAPTIZE HIM AND JESUS DID NOT...if you believe that water baptism is essential for salvation then you also must believe that John The Baptist... is in Hell.... this and the scriptures shared below should be more than enough to prove that water baptism is not needed to be saved and go to heaven...
RookiesProduction 5 months ago
@MrWadie123 - Mark 16:16 and Acts 2:38. Please try to explain those away. "He that believeth AND is baptized shall be saved" (the word AND, as in, 1+1=2. Both parts are required to assemble the whole). Why do you make things harder than they are? It's insults to common sense like this that gives our religion an even worse reputation.
BlackFox0911 5 months ago
Mark 16:16
Acts 2:38
Those are two verses that come to mind IMMEDIATELY. I'm sure there are more
BlackFox0911 6 months ago