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[mkbnett]

well, i believe that you are looking at exactly the same thing, it's just that what are considered "murder-able offenses" are different, and the time of consideration before execution is different in mainstream U.S. culture than in flds culture. also, i am admittedly working off of very little information, so of course the details are different, but i do believe that on some scale, executing people for crimes is occuring in both cultures.

[bsl103158]

mkbnett-your tender heart is evident but you seem in dark completely about this cult. they're serious lawbreakers. these videos are tailored, trust me, this group has horrendous abuse issues.I have studied them for years.One practice- they believe in blood atonement- which is slitting the throat of a member that is considered beyond forgiveness. They have many totally false educational practices and they do things to each other you would find horrifying. Many ex-members write books.

[mkbnett]

It sounds like they might have different cultural beliefs than you do. Killing when you believe someone is beyond forgiveness... that sounds a lot like a religiously-poetic version of the United States' policy of the death penalty. Is that okay?

[DadsBlueAngel]

Orthodox Jews, and many were Orthodox, children married at about twelve, the marriage was not consummated until

the girl was ready. Joseph Smith had a Hebrew teacher and studied the Zohar and the structure of the Jewish Community. You are right about the trail of tears. I have

a lot of videos about the schools and the raids. What didn't somebody understand. Ask me.

[mkbnett]

I don't understand your mention of nukes. I don't know Joseph Smith, so I don't know why that detail is important to your comment.

[DadsBlueAngel]

If you look on the platforms at Ausvitz and other camps

you will see many teenage girls, some pregnant. They are trying to cover up the radiation exposure and its effects. The special programs, genetic nurses and nurse midwives who made house calls to check the babies and document grave deformities. There's been a hold on arrests in Utah for fear that mothers would be too afraid to get help.

Texas is clueless and probably can't get the children's medical records. We do love our nukes.

records.

[mkbnett]

I'm confused and don't understand how the details of your comment are relevant. Please explain further, :1.

[streetsoffire7]

Maybe you could keep them in your beard or something. Or maybe in some cranberry banjo you Peanuts cast member!

[DadsBlueAngel]

I beleive this account of Joseph

Smith unjust and unfair and wonder

why you are so obsessed with a Religion

which, while not entirely harmless,

has brought joy to many people.

Faking documents in this case, according to

Joseph Andersen who, as a History Professor

at the Y, liked to do brownbaggers to ask

random students how they felt about the new information. Joseph Smith was dyslexic. He read with effort, used scribes for the Book

of Mormon. Our affection for him is unbounded.

[DadsBlueAngel]

Well, my Grandparents were Irish and German American. My Father joined the church when he was 17. My Grandmother met her first Mormons when she had a high fever--Polygamist even. There were these huge Condominiums on the hills above Temple Square and it was not hard to set one room aside and quarenteen it. The Revelation forswearing polygamy was not quite as depicted by Church and State media. I find the current account troubling, having read the notes of that Church Conference many times.

[DadsBlueAngel]

What book? And I should have said 54 above. All babies born and women married were covered by the Smith Act--legal and the act was constitutional until Newt Gengritch. I worked in Crisis lines and was in an inservice MSW progam in both Utah and California. Mass sweeps like this are incredibly traumatic, most women of 55 and 70 were taken in a mass sweep in 1953, and were as damaged as these girls and boys now. They'll dig in deeper, you can be sure of it.

[DadsBlueAngel]

So did many who had never been

members, about their secular

nightmares. They left many

creepy situations, some, perhaps

many more, were ignored by the

Courts, CPS, then lost their

kids to the abusive spouse

because he had money.

[DadsBlueAngel]

No Man knows my history was written

by Freud. Joseph Smith was brilliant,

but probably dyslexic. That's why he

used scribes. Ex-Mormons don't often

have enough time or the right historical

materials to be informative.

There were a few years in the mid and

late 1970's when a Church Historian named

Arrington opened the archives--Benson Babies grew up with some pretty odd notions about the importance of popular vanity books by General Authorities now ensconced in the

Gerontocracy or deceased.

[DadsBlueAngel]

It is true, you are acting on very little

information. Everyone I have seen is in

midlife, even elderly, and they are talking

about things that happened in generations

past.

My GGGrandmother left the Kingston group

in 1890 due to a bullying bishop, but stayed

in town her whole life, running the post office and rearing her daughters.

[bsl103158]

this is the US -- I am talking re: the flds belief about "offenses" such as , if a wife or husband) wants to break free of this highly controlling group WITH THEIR kids, the other spouse is considered righteous and doing them a favor if they succeed in getting the disgruntled spouse's throat slit, to "save the kids."As for death penalty, my brother inlaw was an employee at high security prison for 20 yrs. You are mixing two very different topics here.

Again, best wishes .