@Yeomanv10 : Riveted maille is actually quite effective at stopping thrusts. This has been demonstrated many times. Could it go through? Yes. Is it likely to go through? No.
In the viking sagas there are accounts of warriors using their spear to lift up and under the maille of another warrior to stab them. If that wasn't necessary, they wouldn't have done it.
@gonefishingstudios : It depends on what you're going for. Both would stop a cut fine. Both would (if wearing proper padding underneath) likely stop a pierce from most weapons. The disadvantage to protection with maille is that crushing attacks would kill you, while you'd be more likely to survive in lamellar. Though maille would be more maneuverable. Don't listen to tripe about maille not taking thrusts, they don't know what they are talking about.
@gonefishingstudios lamellar. both are effective against cuts though the lamellar does distribute the force better, resulting is less blunt trauma. Against pierces the lamellar is better hands down. mail armor has always been poor against piercing blows simply due to how it's made, and the design philosophy behind it.
@gurkfisk89 Yeah i would say lamellar is good for all purpose defense but riveted chainmail worn over padding could be equally effective but just more flexible
I'm no expert in armor at all. But if I would guess I would say that they have different pros and cons. Both would stop a sword cut effective and a thrust to some degree. Riveted ringmail is more flexible than lamellar. This will let you move freely. But because it have more flex it does not distribute the force of a blow as well.
@mrbeast85 Well i have seen a video (forgot what it was called). In which about 10 pigs we're laid out on the ground with a Padded leather layer under riveted mail, and a Longsword was smashed against it. When they looked at the sword there was some imprints of the mail on the blade. When they removed the mail no damage was done to the leather. However when they removed the leather Pig flesh was stuck to it as they were peeling it up. Not a pretty sight.
@moOswe Like I said, 1000-1350 AD, aka, prior to the Black Death. After 1400-1450 plate armour is cheaper than either form of mail so the whole issue becomes moot. Pre-Black Death, the raw materials are simply too costly to deliberately make terrible armour from.
@Yeomanv10 : Riveted maille is actually quite effective at stopping thrusts. This has been demonstrated many times. Could it go through? Yes. Is it likely to go through? No.
In the viking sagas there are accounts of warriors using their spear to lift up and under the maille of another warrior to stab them. If that wasn't necessary, they wouldn't have done it.
Halofreakanoid 1 month ago in playlist All ARMA Vids
@gonefishingstudios : It depends on what you're going for. Both would stop a cut fine. Both would (if wearing proper padding underneath) likely stop a pierce from most weapons. The disadvantage to protection with maille is that crushing attacks would kill you, while you'd be more likely to survive in lamellar. Though maille would be more maneuverable. Don't listen to tripe about maille not taking thrusts, they don't know what they are talking about.
Halofreakanoid 1 month ago in playlist All ARMA Vids
I think that sword is supposed to be falchion/messer, but looks FAR more like a Chinese Dao. Anyway, still a cool video.
mojothemigo 1 month ago
@gonefishingstudios lamellar. both are effective against cuts though the lamellar does distribute the force better, resulting is less blunt trauma. Against pierces the lamellar is better hands down. mail armor has always been poor against piercing blows simply due to how it's made, and the design philosophy behind it.
Yeomanv10 3 months ago
@gurkfisk89 Yeah i would say lamellar is good for all purpose defense but riveted chainmail worn over padding could be equally effective but just more flexible
gonefishingstudios 4 months ago
@gonefishingstudios
I'm no expert in armor at all. But if I would guess I would say that they have different pros and cons. Both would stop a sword cut effective and a thrust to some degree. Riveted ringmail is more flexible than lamellar. This will let you move freely. But because it have more flex it does not distribute the force of a blow as well.
gurkfisk89 5 months ago
What would be more effective , Steel plate Lammelar or riveted chainmail?
gonefishingstudios 5 months ago
@mrbeast85 Well i have seen a video (forgot what it was called). In which about 10 pigs we're laid out on the ground with a Padded leather layer under riveted mail, and a Longsword was smashed against it. When they looked at the sword there was some imprints of the mail on the blade. When they removed the mail no damage was done to the leather. However when they removed the leather Pig flesh was stuck to it as they were peeling it up. Not a pretty sight.
runescapefreak1245 7 months ago
@moOswe Like I said, 1000-1350 AD, aka, prior to the Black Death. After 1400-1450 plate armour is cheaper than either form of mail so the whole issue becomes moot. Pre-Black Death, the raw materials are simply too costly to deliberately make terrible armour from.
Railstarfish 7 months ago
@Railstarfish Yet again; what era do you think we are talking about here? It makes all the difference you see.
moOswe 7 months ago