Near death experience NDE (there is no hell on the other side, it's here) John Scott
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@johnscottartist Very interesting. I still wonder what our conciousness is made up of. People who have NDE's, from what I have researched, have such an expanded consiousness while they are considered dead. They describe feeling even more consious then when they were actaully alive. Do you believe conciousness is just energy that lives forever? Moving from shell to shell for eternity?
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@Kushologyy 2nd part "why don't we remember past lives?" A: some do, but only intuitive portions. b: we would suffer from mnemonitis a disease where we "remember absolutely everything" and not just in this life, the overload would send us mad. We can only intuit past lives and only when needed to expand on this one. Intuition is a safety valve to break down subtle but vast reality, into digestible portions. *memory is a further dialogue, earthly memory and intuitive recall,different
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@Kushologyy 2 parts to your question. 1.where did we and the universe begin? There is no beginning or end. What nearly sent me mad, due to my NDE I realised that there is no escape from anything in the universe. I've also tried to cognise what's on the "outside" of *absolute consciousness "god", or why it/us exists in the first place, I nearly went mad for about 5 years just from that fact alone. why is there consciousness at all? I can't answer it, it is just too mind boggling.
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Where the universe came from? it's always been here, but is separated into different levels of subjective envelopes, we are at the densest envelope which carries consciousness from the *absolute source. That's what I was shown. I'm more a panentheist in my views now, this differs from pantheism. Panentheism is *all pervasive and also a *separate *absolute *force removed from us. This absolute force then allows for spiritual laws to be enforced via karmic consequence.
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thanks, that's correct. we come in alone and go out alone, but we are all interconnected and learn like a big hologram. We just need to deepen that realisation whilst down here.
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Someone a long time ago asked me the same questions and my answers to all three is, inside of me, right here, right now. I never believed that the diety was just an outside force. I've always known that we all have both heaven and hell in our souls. Its is our own choices that make or break the world we live in and whatever side we express makes that reality. I know, it sounds simple, but sometimes the simplest things are the hardest to attain.
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@johnscottartist : John, I am so sorry for your loss. I have wondered, even in light of quantum physics (the "multi-verse" as well) that if we are so interconnected on so many planes, that such a death of a loved one, is also part of the learning experience for US, not just them, or perhaps US in THIS life, on THIS plane.
Thanks so much for your story.
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@ScottMacFie I realise that if we are fortunate if we can gain insight as to why things happen in our lives. Many just bumble along and don't reflect. The suffering is a form of a philosophers stone, albeit a very slow one, ultimately all this this will lead us to the conclusion that human life is suffering in general. illness comes in as another level. My own sister passed of cancer 43, she realised one week prior to her death why she was here. That was the realisation for *her.
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@ScottMacFie Scott, from what I've intuited after many years of reflection after my NDE, everyone is given what they are given for individual lessons, irrespective of beliefs. It's very hard when we see close ones suffer. I also had close family go this way. I lost my girlfriend and 4yo daughter (car crash) @22 I'm now 50.I can't answer for others, I do know that the lessons are impregnated into our energetic field prior to incarnation, We can't make sense of other's lessons, more..
Kushology ~Very interesting. I still wonder what our consciousness is made up of. People who have NDE's, from what I have researched, have such an expanded consciousness while they are considered dead. They describe feeling even more conscious then when they were actually alive. Do you believe consciousness is just energy that lives forever? Moving from shell to shell for eternity?
John: consciousness is a "wave package", a *constructed reality based mostly off 5 senses. In essence it is nothing
johnscottartist 2 months ago