The military has rigged competitions in the past. For example, the M14 vs FN FAL test was considered "rigged". But that is not necessarily the case here. There were also cases where a particular design decision caused a failure of a particular test, ie. Fairchild's decision to use the ultralight barrel on the AR-10. The important thing is not to dismiss the military concerns while also not rejecting a bold and promising technology. Dragon Skin appears a very promising technology.
@tops1028 If you're looking for a video of the failure you can either search here or google it. The motor oil test where an armor is exposed to motor oil for 1 hour. Oil and diesel exposure is common on base or after IED ambushes. Also remember Gulf War 1 when the oil fields were set on fire and residue was everywhere. The discs fell apart and the vest was full penetrated. Details of testing can be found by Googling "Dragonskin Congress failure".
@tops1028 Actually no. They banned it because when they originally claimed it had an NIJ certification. This was later discovered to not have been the case. False claims like that are a big thing and it was banned for that reason alone.
There are videos of a single DS vest stopping rounds in optimal weather and conditions. The Army tests were in multiple environments and chemical exposure (diesel fuel). DS passed some and failed others.
They banned it because it's too expensive and they don't want to say they're trying to save money in exchange for the best protection.
Even the guy who invented the current standard issue armor said that dragon skin is better
There's tons of videos out there showing dragon skin stopping large caliber rounds like .308 but I don't see a video showing these fails the military claims.
the military won't use it because it failed four of eight initial subtests with enhanced small arms protective inserts. in one test the level IV dragon skin vests suffered 13 first or second shot complete penetrations. also they weigh 50lbs and don't hold up in extreme heat or cold or exposure to oil, diesel, ect. they have a good idea, but a ways to go before they make dragon skin...well...bulletproof. they do have the coolest name in body armor but that don't stop bullets.
cal 50???? why not???
ioanclaudiuszabo 2 days ago
The military has rigged competitions in the past. For example, the M14 vs FN FAL test was considered "rigged". But that is not necessarily the case here. There were also cases where a particular design decision caused a failure of a particular test, ie. Fairchild's decision to use the ultralight barrel on the AR-10. The important thing is not to dismiss the military concerns while also not rejecting a bold and promising technology. Dragon Skin appears a very promising technology.
kc5qhh 2 weeks ago
@tops1028 If you're looking for a video of the failure you can either search here or google it. The motor oil test where an armor is exposed to motor oil for 1 hour. Oil and diesel exposure is common on base or after IED ambushes. Also remember Gulf War 1 when the oil fields were set on fire and residue was everywhere. The discs fell apart and the vest was full penetrated. Details of testing can be found by Googling "Dragonskin Congress failure".
brainplay 3 weeks ago
@tops1028 Actually no. They banned it because when they originally claimed it had an NIJ certification. This was later discovered to not have been the case. False claims like that are a big thing and it was banned for that reason alone.
There are videos of a single DS vest stopping rounds in optimal weather and conditions. The Army tests were in multiple environments and chemical exposure (diesel fuel). DS passed some and failed others.
brainplay 3 weeks ago
They banned it because it's too expensive and they don't want to say they're trying to save money in exchange for the best protection.
Even the guy who invented the current standard issue armor said that dragon skin is better
There's tons of videos out there showing dragon skin stopping large caliber rounds like .308 but I don't see a video showing these fails the military claims.
tops1028 1 month ago
the military won't use it because it failed four of eight initial subtests with enhanced small arms protective inserts. in one test the level IV dragon skin vests suffered 13 first or second shot complete penetrations. also they weigh 50lbs and don't hold up in extreme heat or cold or exposure to oil, diesel, ect. they have a good idea, but a ways to go before they make dragon skin...well...bulletproof. they do have the coolest name in body armor but that don't stop bullets.
hustla781 1 month ago
good one. but if it is expensive, it will be NEVER accepted for army use.
Saskamon 1 month ago
when the guy said m16 its really an m4a1
villageguitar4 1 month ago
look at 7:42 at the top right corner did a bullet go through?
JTF2warrior7 2 months ago
@Thunkful2 you are aware that bullets don't shoot in a straight line right? They fire in a parabola...
kyoukan91 2 months ago