Ali Abunimah at the One State Conference Part 1 of 3

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[iLovePalestineDotCom]

Much respect to Ali Abunimah. He knew years ago that the 2 state solution would never work. Only a one state solution with equal right for all its citizens has the most chance to work. No matter how you look at it, the status quo is coming to an end, and the Israeli cancer will eat itself soon, and Palestinians will be liberated!

[dalisabe62]

I full heartedly agree that the Two-State Solution besides being a sham rocks-cooking process is no more than a brilliant idea to preserve and enhance the very concept of Zionism which from its inception was founded on segregation, exclusion, apartheid, racism, and ethnic superiority. It is just another way of saying: be a good neighbor by staying the hell out of our neighborhood! The solution only benefits the political ambitions of both the Zionists and the opportunists on the other side.

[GorterPoss]

@iLovePalestineDotCom I agree that the settlements and the walls are potent inhibitors to any agreement and any viable Palestinian state.  However, I don't think they have to be deal breakers if both sides were clever enough. The walls can be dismantled or moved. The settlements can also be dismantled, or, abandoned a la the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza.

Again, after a couple of generations of peace and trade I think a one state solution could work. I find it difficult to agree with you.

[GorterPoss]

@iLovePalestineDotCom I think we have different notions of viability. I consider a "viable" state to be one with lots of social capital, smooth government and citizens that more or less get along. This could one day be Palestine/Israel/whatever but you can't honestly claim that it could be this way immediately. Both Israelis and Palestinians have enough problems with internal division, corruption etc... on their own! How on earth do you think a state could work where you throw them together?

[iLovePalestineDotCom]

@GorterPoss Only 1 state is viable & those Jews who don't like it can pick up & leave the same way they picked up & come illegally to our land & displaced us. The ones who don't' mind sharing the land will find us completely accommodating & willing to forgive & move on with our lives on our shared land with equal rights & responsibility. A one state solution can have all the international guarantees required to to ensure the security of both people until they both learn to live in peace wthot it

[iLovePalestineDotCom]

@GorterPoss Israel has never completely agreed to a 2 state solution they agreed to "negotiate" it, negotiate is all that they wanted since the Oslo accord. We negotiate and they built in Palestinian land in a cancer like fashion devouring everything they can get away with, and "NEGOTIATE" more and more.

There is no land left for a viable state and we refuse to live in a state subservient to Israhell, so that leaves a once state solution. cont...

[GorterPoss]

@iLovePalestineDotCom I would be in favour of a binational state if I thought it was viable and practical. Do you honestly believe the two peoples can be thrown into a polity together and they would just get along? In my view the only way to achieve a one state solution is to have a 2 or 3 generation (50 years) provisional arrangement where peaceful relations and free trade prevailed. This would create a basis for a binational state.

[antifunki]

@petersz98 @petersz98 how ironic it is that people who claim to be against Israel because Israel is "ethnically cleansing" the Palestinians (which is of course a lie) - are calling for an ethnic cleansing of the Jewish homeland from Jews, for genocide and war crimes. This is much worse than hypocrisy - this is, if there is such a thing, pure evil.

[antifunki]

everyone, listen carefully - there will not be a one state solution, period. Puting aside the bizarre fact that the Palestinians are suddenly interested in living together with the people they consistently call nazis and racist - you, the anti-two state solution people, cannot fool anyone in Israel that this is not just another mean to destroy Israel. The Jews in such a country will not be safe - and the Jews are not going to give up their homeland.

[petersz98]

Zionists who surrender peacefully should be allowed to go back to the countries they came from.

Those with blood on their should be sent to the Hague.

[Dengatube]

I agree with andrewfelluss. Your language ist counterproductive. What do you want? One state with equal rights for all? Then say so.

[petersz98]

Your arguing about semantics. The Nazi Third Reich was destroyed but it didn't mean the end of the Germans. The Zionist Third Reich must go the same way.