ACLU Responds to Prop 8 Loss

fuck the aclu, i made a comment on fb, and they blocked me. y? i dont know. all i said was look out for homeland security calling everyone terrorists, and said the police state is coming. fucking bs liberals, u suck !!!

Right on brother!! You just said it for me

The difference between civil union and marriage is like a GED and High School Diploma. Technically, they're "equal", but we know they really aren't. Why do we have to add "marriage" after the word gay? Because it carries the connotations of that word, and is conducive to both legal and SOCIAL/CULTURAL equality.

Not imposing the view that "Gay marriage" is a "good thing", asking for gays to be allowed to marry is asking for gay marriage to be socially acceptable I.E. TOLERANCE. If straight couples can get married, why not gays? there's the issue of "separate but equal". Allowing gay marriage is about more than legal equality, it's about social acceptance. Saying gays are allowed to form civil unions but not get married is like saying that a homosexual relationship isn't "equal" to a straight one.

The 14th amendment says "equality under the law". Social/cultural equality is not the business of the government. For the government to attempt impose social or cultural equality, they would have to significantly infringe on our civil liberties.

If gay marriage is considered to be legally equivalent to civil unions, then it's legal redundancy. Meaning the distinction between "marriage" and "civil union" would be completely arbitrary. The fact that civil unions and marriage are legally equivalent is an argument for gay marriage, not against it. Why does the government need to draw a completely arbitrary line between two legally identical labels?

Maybe because some people feel uncomfortable with the label "marriage" being applied to homosexuals? In other words, by legally distinguishing civil unions from marriage, the government imposing social/cultural INEQUALITY. Which is also not the business of the government.

Well put.

What about a popular referendum? Would gay marriage be legitimate if a majority of voters agreed to it?