The Best Science is Created Useless - Neil deGrasse Tyson - ABC News

Neil deGrasse Tyson gives a few examples on the frontier of science being disconnected from its future applications.

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[htiberian]

I am simply not smart enough to see the beauty of relgious bullshit - and it smells.

[odinata]

@circusOFprecision

Genesis:

Plants--day 3.

Stars and sun--day 4.

Sorry bud. good effort though--to salvage a fail...

Not a good effort at being intellectually honest.

Interesting as literature.

Bullshit as science--as Hovind and Sanford would have you believe it is.

[odinata]

@circusOF

"it just happens to match the procession of the universe from a modern scientific perspective"

Another false assertion.

You are forcing a fit that the Fundamentalists would surely reject, and that science obviously rejects.

I think its sweet that you are so generous with the mythology, but you miss the point of myth and its relevance when you try to force it like you are.

Genesis is not even CLOSE to being a "description" of anything--its power is that it is myth.

Try Joseph Campbell.

[circusOFprecision]

@odinata

Visible to who? Visible to the person having the mystical vision. It makes perfect sense, even though the person who wrote this down long ago had no mental concepts of modern scientific theories. And that is the beauty. It is described mystically, as it was envisioned. Dismiss it as nonsense, I don't care.

[odinata]

@circusOFprecision

I read every word.

Its mostly nonsense.

The words are right there in black and whit.

It doesn't say the stars and sun that god made earlier became visible (visible to who? There were no eyes yet) on day four.

I'm glad that you aren't so stupid as to take the mythology literally--that's a step in the right direction.

But to concoct some story that has no corroboration in the writings of the mythology itself means that this fantasy eexists nowhere outside of your own head.

[circusOFprecision]

@odinata

I guess you didn't listen to a word I said. People have thought this through time and time again, way deeper than your willfully ignorant, literally superficial, purposefully pompous understanding. But enough of this. For you, it's bullshit. The fact that thousands of years ago, someone wrote down their vision, and from a visual and mystical perspective, it just happens to match the procession of the universe from a modern scientific perspective is beyond your ability to grasp.

[odinata]

@circusOFprecision

It can't be any more clear, circus.

It doesn't matter "how long a Jeebus day" is.....

Genesis god created plants before the stars and the sun.

"Let the land produce vegetation: " Genesis 1:11-13

God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, to govern the day and the night," Genesis 1:14-19

So your ASSERTION, again, is WRONG.

[circusOFprecision]

@odinata

Remember, God created the heavens (first) and the earth. He said let there be light. He said let the earth bring forth life, starting with plants (photosynthetic algae...?). The 4th day, the atmosphere becomes clear and stars and the procession of the sun become revealed. And then more and more complex creatures emerge. Every time I think deeply about it, it's actually quite incredible that someone had this vision and wrote it down long ago, well before the bible.

[circusOFprecision]

@odinata

I suggest you reread Genesis1, the whole chapter, and imagine that you are envisioning an evolutionary unfolding from the perspective of the universe but looking out from the earth. However, since you show no interest and probably won't do this, I will leave you with this one thought. It says the earth brought forth life, then God "made" creatures after their kind (in other words, at the end of the biosphere came great diversity). It's actually an interesting, condensed description.

[circusOFprecision]

@odinata

The days of Genesis correspond to distinct periods of cosmic evolution from the perspective of whoever is having said vision and wrote it down. Plant life (bacteria & algae) starts on the 3rd day (but continues as is described over time), that's the important part. On the 4th, the atmosphere is in a condition where starts and the Sun become visible. It makes perfect sense. But again, you can't just pick up the KJV, you've gotta look at the Tora, Talmud, and ancient commentaries.