Education Queensland defends NSCP chaplain organising 'Creation Science' lecture

Greg Peach, Education Queensland North Coast Regional Director in defence of a 'Creation Science Lecture' on campus during school hours by Evolution denier (and Ken Ham crony) John Mackay organised by the school's NSCP Federally funded chaplain:
"The Principal at Gympie State High School can determine if it is in the educational interests of students to allow a guest speaker to give an address."

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[peterb1968]

This is an outrage. A school in Australia under the Australian Constitution must not allow any religion to be promoted. Time to get rid of the School Chaplains program

[veritasodivmparit]

My hat goes off to the Vice Captain who has resigned - a demonstration that at least some of today's students are allowed to exercise reason and logic to the extent that he/she was able to recognise John Mackay is a loon who has no other mission than to mislead people (aka proselytise).

[GaolisVideoLog]

@MrHippyRobot This movement should stop right now before they throw humanity back to the middle ages. It's not like this BS hadn't already happened before.

[MrHippyRobot]

I go to that school. The chaplain does not force any religion on anyone. He's not the problem. Even though the lecture was optional it goes to far I don't think it should of happened in the first place.

[Xatasha6611]

Creationism is Religion with a lab coat on

[Avatar230594]

@zapkvr He doesn't preach though, he still just gives you advice.

[Avatar230594]

Should it interest anyone that I was there? I know both the Chaplain and the vice Captain. Religious debates are stupid. It's true in saying that attendance was voluntary. I didn't actually go to the seminar but I heard there was a lot of gaps i his argument. Also the advertisement sign has "Science presentation." The head of science department wrote the word "pseudo" in front.

[peterb1968]

Zapkvr has a point. It is not that any chaplain forces religion is forced on anyone. It is that our money is being spent on relgion. It puts a danger into schools as religious people are not vetted like anyone else is going to work with kids and religious people have a bad record when dealing with kids to say the least. Infact all religion including scripture classes dont belong at school. The work establish in the constitution means both to set up and to support.

[ArnoldEBM]

@zapkvr Hahaha. I'm not even going to bother... You have to take shit out on a 17 year old... I'm not religious in any way, shape or form. But that's not going to stop me from allowing other people to have their own beliefs. That's just the way I see it. You don't have to abuse me about it. I'm just saying that we've got a chaplain who's a good honest man who doesn't shove religion in our faces. And yeah, I'll be voting in the next election. Cheers.

[zapkvr]

@ArnoldEBM Or even Of their own accord? Seriously, are you really in year 12? How the devil did you achieve that when you don't even know the King's english? The point is not that kids are forced to go see him, it's the fact that taxpayers are paying for him to spout his religious bullshit. Do they teach clear thinking at your school? Do you even understand what is stake here? Are you allowed to vote? Dismissed.

[ArnoldEBM]

I'm one of the other vice captains at this school. I know the chappy and he doesn't 'enforce' religion on any of the students. He's simply there for any students who happen to be Christian so they have someone who shares the same beliefs there to support them when things are getting hard. No student is made to see him if they don't want to. The presentation was for students who were interested in hearing another person's view. No student was forced to attend. They were there on their own accord.

[zapkvr]

@peterb1968 Well clearly it has some ambiguity or we would not have state aid to catholic schools which has been in existence since the fifties. And I think you will find estblishment has a different meaning entirely to that which you refer. In the U.K. the Extablsihed or State church is the CoE because the Monarch is its head. There is no analogy in Australia.