Bedini with 3 stator magnets

1st running test of three magnet bedini. looks good, has a 'second gear'?!
800rpm @ 207mA
LED's v.dim but lit.

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[Pwordchernoir]

Interesting comments/discussion guys. Drevtoobe - I am afraid I have to agree with Seph on this one, you should be performing your own experiments if you want a better understanding of these circuits. An oscilloscope would be nice, shame my dad has it lol!

[Drevtoobe]

That all looks pretty good! I think the main reason you are getting much better performance has to do with the LED driving circuit. Based on this clip, I am assuming that you still are running the tree pick-up coils through the rectifiers which are connected to the three capacitors in parallel.

This time the LEDs are barely on, which means that they are not being over-driven. Over-driving the LEDs is a no-no for reasons that I will explain later.

[Pwordchernoir]

The LED's are in parrallel. They wern't overly bright before, they are capable of being so much brighter than that. Now, with 3 mags they are much dimmer. Im goin to 6 again but N-S-N-S config. for reasons shown in next video.

[Drevtoobe]

Were those LEDs in parallel connected straight to the three caps or did you put a resistor in series with them?

[Pwordchernoir]

straight to the caps

[Drevtoobe]

As far as the scope goes, you may have your sound card built-into your motherboard and are reluctant to damage it. However the good news is that there is a very good chance that you can simply get another sound card and plug it into a PCI slot on your computer, and have the scope software talk to that sound card. I assume that you will be able to get a used SoundBlaster on Craig's List London for about five pounds! Or buy a new SoundBlaster16 for seven pounds! lol

[Drevtoobe]

If you ever set up a NSNSNS rotor magnet configuration again, then you could try connecting a pair of "opposite direction" LEDs across the pick-up coil leads. Move a "north facing" magnet in front of the pick-up coil and rock the rotor back and forth in front of the coil. You should see LEDA flash first, followed by LEDB second, it won't matter which direction the rotor is turning in. When you move a "south facing" magnet in front of the coil, you will get LEDB first, LEDA second.

[Drevtoobe]

Can we call you "Blackie"? lol I have an even better suggestion for you. Myself and Seph are in the same boat, we are both making calls on your setup without actually being there. Have you watched some of kubikop videos? In some of his clips he connects a pair of LEDs in "opposite directions" across a secondary bifilar coil. When he switches the primary coil on you see LEDA briefly flash, and then when he switches the primary coil off you see LEDB briefly flash.

[introvertebrate]

yep... we'll have to agree to disagree.

because with alternating nsnsns config' the south pole behind the north facing out is no longer going between the magnets (forming the scalar south). it is flowing directly into the north of the south facing magnet beside it. with this configuration there is no scalar pole.  Do the experiment and you will see.

[Drevtoobe]

Hey Seph,

YouTube is in "postings scrambled mode" so the thread picks up here.

I quoting Arron from the energetic forum from March 9th:

"Magnet N moves towards core and induces a reverse charge to base keeping it off. The moment that the magnet moves away from top dead center, the field flips and then there is positive at the base that turns on the transistor, which of course allows the power winding to charge from the battery."

This is in accord with what I said in my last posting.

[Drevtoobe]

But I submit to you it's different for the pick-up coil that is very close to the moving rotor magnets. When a magnet flies by the coil sees a rapid increase followed by a rapid decrease in flux.

If the magnet is north, you get double-pulse from the coil, negative-positive. If a magnet is south, you get a positive-negative pulse from the coil.

Whether the magnets are all north, all south, or alternating, the coil outputs 12 "north-south"-like transitions per turn. Let's agree to disagree.

[Drevtoobe]

Okay, I am not going to drag this out forever.  I understand what you mean by the "scalar south". A hand-held coil a few inches away from the spinning rotor would see increasing/decreasing magnetic flux, with the decreasing magnetic flux being the scalar south. Six north-facing magnets giving you six north-"scalar south" transitions per revolution.