ELLE Presents: Daily Capsule NY Fashion Week SS '09, Day 4

Live from the tents, ELLE editors take you into New York Fashion Week Spring/Summer '09, and give you the highlights of Day 4.

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[Lucretia2222]

It's not a question of conformity, everyone conforms to a certain extent, it's a question of conscience. I'm not trying to look smart, as I just stated in so many words, imagism is meaningless, what I'm saying is that people are creative and they shouldn't have to pay others to first squash that creativity and then supplant it with so many consumer products.

[Mizutoki808]

You're one of those people who feel they're being a conformist if they were to listen to what society says is a "trend." Well you're not making yourself seem any smarter, ranting about how practicality determines what an outfit should be.

Honestly, fashion is more than a scam, as you put it.

And creativity, as you said, may not be a virtue by default, but that's subjective.

[Lucretia2222]

If I want to look a certain way, I do it myself. I don't pay other people to tell me how to look cool or professional or whatever.

[Lucretia2222]

You can profit without being mindful. Intelligence is not by default a virtue and by the same token, since I could say scam artists and capitalists are analogously creative... creativity is not by default a virtue either. Fuck. Fashion. Utility and practicality are what determine how I dress.

[Mizutoki808]

(In response to what Lucrieta said)--

Oh sure, it's very stupid; that's what this whole multi-billion dollar industry is based off of, stupidity.

Are you serious? Fashion is creativity. Eod.

[Lucretia2222]

Could maybe see if you were a starving artisan and you had to sell your culture/art to get by because that's all you have and something beyond your control upset your ability to make it another way but things like this are just greedy silly people make clothes for other greedy silly people so that yet other greedy silly people can turn it into a tv spot, a magazine article, etc. etc. Not about creativity, about money, status, and letting the general populace know they can't have either.

[Lucretia2222]

Moreover, because art becomes equivalent to money, social stratification occurs. There's now 'high' art and 'low' art. There is celebrity fashion, politician fashion, archon fashion and because these are what people aspire to out of some warped personal perception, Art begins to reflect the real disenfranchisement of the everyday person. Spectacles like this make it all the more so because we are asked to sit here watch envy crave and above all BUY!!!

Again: Stupid, Elitist, Capitalist, Boring.

[Lucretia2222]

Art is expression, by default whatever comes out, via whatever medium is a reflection of the creator. If the person is making 'art' in order to sell it, then they are expressing capitalism. They are saying, "The things I make are commodities, pay me for them." Personally, that is bullshit to me. As bullshit as saying, "Pay me to talk to you." or more accurately, "Pay me to blow hot air at you." All this does, along with the associated patent system is make art about money and that is ugly.

[Harrycurtin]

When someone makes something like fashion, art, music, or anything of that nature their life, it's often necessary to sacrifice your 'mark' in order to sell. It's the nature of business when you're dealing with peoples' 'wants' rather than their 'needs'. It isn't necessarily a bad thing, great things have come out of it, it can give people direction. However I do agree it can sometimes be devastating to a person who cherises their creativity :(

[Lucretia2222]

Not against creativity, against spectacles, against commodifying creativity -selling life to people who've forgotten their own. Make your own culture.