Debate: Christianity vs Secular Humanism (5 of 14)

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Featuring: Dr. Paul Kurtz, Dr. Norman Geisler

Description: Dr. Paul Kurtz, the man who drafted the "Humanist Manifesto II," is currently the editor of Free Inquiry, the main Secular Humanist magazine in America. Representing Christianity is Dr. Norman Geisler, Dean of the Southern Evangelical Seminary in Charlotte, NC; author and co-author of over thirty books, including When Critics Ask, When Skeptics Ask, and Christian Apologetics.


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[rickgigliotti]

@DarthHater100 Yes, the Christians were right in the 70s and are still right today.  The truth is the truth! The questions STILL have NOT been answered. Christianity make the most sense.

[diuryl]

i don't think there are reasons, THERE ARE!

apparently what dr.Geisler and i are saying isn't sinking in. there is evidence here in reality, in nature that suggests that there's something beyond nature. it's not what we think, it's not subjective, and YES! it is scientifically backed up.

why shouldn't i tell you there is convincing evidence? because you've already made up your mind that there isn't? this is what we call closed mindedness. the thing your side accuses our side of.....>

[gmn545]

"Mt. Rushmore"? *facepalm* Inductive reasoning isn't trustworthy. Go outside and 'just look' at how the sun doesn't stay in one place all day and notice the ground doesn't move. Does that mean the sun is going around the earth? NO. We watch other people make paintings, buildings, and watches. This is NOT comparable to natural phenomena (e.g. snowflakes don't need a designer), nor the so-called "creation" of the universe, especially in light of the 1st law of thermodynamics.

[gmn545]

Define "kind", Geisler. Such a vague term has no value to this age of modern science, and creationists only use it to shift goalposts. Species is a useful term. Creationists will say a "kind" of animal is a 'dog', a 'cat', a 'bird', et al. and means "able to bring forth", or produce offspring. So why can't parrots and penguins interbreed? They're both birds, right? That's the problem: Is a bird a "kind"? Are parrots a "kind of a kind", then? Are species of parrots "kinds of a kind of a kind?"

[gmn545]

@rickgigliotti 1) Christianity and evolutionary theory are not mutually exclusive. The geneticist who led the Human Genome Project is a devout evangelical christian. 2) Geisler's arguments have all been addressed. For example, Gentry's "polonium haloes" has been refuted.

talkorigins. org / faqs / po-halos / gentry. html (remove spaces)

[gmn545]

Geisler says it doesn't matter when the flood occured. For the sake of his argument, it DOES matter, since he has associated the extinction of the dinosaurs with 'Noah's flood.' And whether this occured just 4,000-5,000 years ago is significant for two reasons. 1) a handful of animals on a boat producing the millions of modern day species in that span of time is impossible; DNA doesn't change anywhere near that fast. 2) 0 evidence suggests the extinction event was that recent.

[raywingfield]

ahh, is this for real or a comedy, it is very funny, 

[heathsawyer]

Typical Christian, Deny scientific progress.Christians deny science until they need it.

[BigDiamondCutter]

@diuryl Open mindedness to the point of your brain falling out. Your leap from evidence to God is purely irrational. Even if science didn't have an answer today to a natural phenomena, how can your mind fill in the "mystery" with "God did it". It's so funny that years later when a proper scientific study is performed and the answer is found and is natural... you all run to the next "mystery" and not acknowledge that you were wrong on the last one. This is the history of science against theism!

[Joeschmoe4138]

8 people cleaned up all the poop of all animal species on the ark??? LOL That right there should make you think.

[SIMKINETICS]

What bullshit! The water can be at different levels? Sorry Geisler, you're ignoring fundamental hydrodynamics except for the gravitational effects of the sun & moon on tides that only allow a difference of a few feet. The 'great floods' are mythology. There is no way that water ever covered the land because there simply isn't enough of it!