@gamewizard The law is that you must ID yourself when asked AND when reasonable articulated suspicion exists that you have committed a crime or are a witness to a crime.
Hiibel was suspected of being involved in a crime so he had to show his ID.
BUT, an officer just cant randomly walk up to someone and demand ID without reason.
Thats what the supreme court said in its decision.
How am I blind? I should hope that a police officer has a right to question someone who is acting suspiciously when they are around my house. I suppose if a police officer walked on by while someone jimmied open your window you'd accuse him of dereliction of duty. You can't have it both ways.
An officer wouldn't approach you and ask you for ID if he didn't suspect you were doing something that you shouldn't be doing. If an officer sees you lurking in the bushes under someone's bedroom window, does he have the right to approach you and ask for some ID? Hell, yes he does.
@gamewizard they have too be investigating you. officers can approach you for no reason and ask for your ID and you dont have to show them, only when they are investigating you.
What do you mean "starting to see"? The law is that you must identify yourself when asked by a police officer. That's what the Supreme Court decision was all about. The Supreme Court decision held that it does not violate the 4th Amendment for an officer to ask you to identify yourself as it is not an unreasonable search or seizure and does not require a warrant. It also does not violate the 5th Amendment because your name alone is not incriminating in itself.
@gamewizard The law is that you must ID yourself when asked AND when reasonable articulated suspicion exists that you have committed a crime or are a witness to a crime.
Hiibel was suspected of being involved in a crime so he had to show his ID.
BUT, an officer just cant randomly walk up to someone and demand ID without reason.
Thats what the supreme court said in its decision.
2204Alpha 10 hours ago
@northofmackinaw no he's not, i'd do the same thing as him if i was in the same situation... and i don't drink
omgpuppies0707 1 month ago
he he.... us hiibel's.....
colizonthedragon 3 months ago
Define investigation because in my mind that is exactly what the officer is doing here!
22mattbaer 3 months ago
The guy is obviously drunker than hell
northofmackinaw 5 months ago
@srcetme
How am I blind? I should hope that a police officer has a right to question someone who is acting suspiciously when they are around my house. I suppose if a police officer walked on by while someone jimmied open your window you'd accuse him of dereliction of duty. You can't have it both ways.
gamewizard 5 months ago
@gamewizard your blind
srcetme 5 months ago
@srcetme
An officer wouldn't approach you and ask you for ID if he didn't suspect you were doing something that you shouldn't be doing. If an officer sees you lurking in the bushes under someone's bedroom window, does he have the right to approach you and ask for some ID? Hell, yes he does.
gamewizard 5 months ago
@gamewizard they have too be investigating you. officers can approach you for no reason and ask for your ID and you dont have to show them, only when they are investigating you.
srcetme 5 months ago
@srcetme
What do you mean "starting to see"? The law is that you must identify yourself when asked by a police officer. That's what the Supreme Court decision was all about. The Supreme Court decision held that it does not violate the 4th Amendment for an officer to ask you to identify yourself as it is not an unreasonable search or seizure and does not require a warrant. It also does not violate the 5th Amendment because your name alone is not incriminating in itself.
gamewizard 5 months ago