If The Jury Had Known (Part II)

Testimony of Shawna Ornt saying the people she saw the night of the murder was not Ryan Ferguson or Chuck Erickson.

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News & Politics

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• Ryan
• Ferguson
• wrongful
• convicted
• heinholt
• murder
• missouri
• erickson

[tonyzerr]

I believe that they were both dumb kids who DID do this terrible crime...one felt guilty enough to admit...the other was a rich kid who didnt want to go to jail...i believe that justice was served.

[mzuri4u]

Tonyzerr,

Did you watch the YouTube above?

That is the eye witness giving testimony during Ryan's July Hearing.

Did you see the part where she testifies that the person she saw was not Ryan or Chuck?

Or do you think the witness is not telling the truth?

[tonyzerr]

Looks like a jury saw it differently..appeal all he wants, he deserves his fate.

[mzuri4u]

BTW all the appeals up to July 2008 are only testimony that took place in Ryan's 2005 Trial.

No other information could be presented that is why Ryan lost his appeals

July 2008 was the first time we were allowed to present new witnesses and evidence.

Bouncer Mike Schook and Dallas Mallory for the first time and others.

Shawna Ornt testified for the first time as to who she saw in the parking lot. The prosecutor covered up Shawna's eye witness statement.

This is a Brady Violation!

[KellyMarlis]

Ryan is INNOCENT and now CHuck has actually come forward and admits to LYING about everything, especially Ryan's involvement!! DO NOT TRUST THE POLICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheLilly1212]

Ryan is INNOCENT and need to have a new trial.

[mrslink2]

@tonyzerr Hope you never end up in Ryan's place or on a jury. God help us all!

[bodlek]

@tonyzerr You seem pretty dead set that the 'guilty' (not confused or sick) kid and the 'rich' kid did this horrific crime. Show me the evidence. Also, if Ryan is rich, why would he need to rob someone for money? That doesn't make much sense. I believe you are insensitive and obviously blind if you can not see that they are both obviously innocent, and now (2 years after your comment) the 'guilty' kid admits that he committed perjury and took years of Ryan's life. Open your eyes, NO EVIDENCE!

[gonnatapthat]

just look at the michael crowe case what they did to this kid.they had him believing in the end he murdered his younger sister and 2 friends helped him.he was 14 at the time and they kept his parents away from him eventhough he asked for them.it should be a law the anyone under 18 should have an attorney present when police talk to them

[gonnatapthat]

these da's and the police need to start being held responsible for the crimes they are committing and a police officer lying to us should be stopped also.many ppl are in prison who don't need to be there.i was watching yesterday on youtube where police officers were planting drugs on ppl.this is outrageous

[aabill]

Actually it does get worse check out

Have you ever had a cop in your face

[aabill]

Stealthis thanks for your support and kind words

Still I would not wish any thing ill to fall upon Crane's family. It's not their fault that he is so totally vile.

[stealthis]

Also, no psychologist in court to debate dream analysis? EXTREMELY fishy. Nobody trusts dreams for crap! They are made out of odds and ends of real life, creativity, and anything bouncing around in our head. They aren't as symbolic as we'd all like them to be (blame the media and storytelling for this... they tell stories, not psychology!) therefore they can't be used as source of facts.

[stealthis]

I was only minutes into the case too (before knowing a lot of details) when I had pegged Chuck as being mentally unstable and a USELESS witness. It is beyond clear that his head was not in the right place and he didn't do it either. A proper police department and prosecutor could spot this miles away, and I do believe they did... and saw an opportunity to manipulate him through it. There is ZERO chance that they were oblivious to that fact.