War Neuroses: Netley Hospital (1917), pt. 1 of 5
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@mattsnow81 dude please dont use that political shit. the president doesnt have any kind of authority in what war we can and cant get out of thats up for the senate. if we REALLY want to get out of this we AS CITIZENS need to speak up against us. we are more powerful than any president as long as american can remember that
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@MrMeineNamen agreed. War is ugly and they only candidate that would get us out of the mess is Ron Paul.
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@mattsnow81 they dont hide it at all. my uncle knows a soldier who was hit by an IED wasnt even injured but hi was clinically diagnosed with severe shell shock afterwards. if pussies over there would stop trying to get attention and our government just stayed out of their drama things would be better
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and all of that for nothing... for some leader's orders
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Imagine you were a soldier fighting for your country; then imagine making friends with your squad; then imagine witnessing those friends being killed, into pieces by falling bombs. Then and only then you would feel empathy and comprehension for these poor men.
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@olliephelan Not really the issue (and not the place to discuss it in depth either). Mortars have a baseplate and punch down using the earth to absorb the recoil, while howitzers recoil backwards, against brakes, springs and shock absorbers. Both 'can' be used at high/low angle, maximum range is theoretically at 800mil/45 degrees. Range (per unit of propulsion/charge) decreases the further toward the extremes of the quadrant (0/0 or 1600mil/90 degrees) you travel from there.
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@aarontsmall1975 I always wondered why the TRAJECTORY of a MORTAR and an artillery piece is OPPOSITE...MORTAR= low angle for range..HIGH angle = short range
Artillery = High angle for range...low angle for short range OPPOSITE. My father was Captain of a heavy mortar company. The only way I can think of it is the FORCE.. best analogy is that a MORTAR is like throwing a rock "UNDERHAND" and artillary is like throwing it OVERHAND. Shortrange a mortar can be seen struggling for altitude.
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@olliephelan Yeah, but the things you could reasonably hope to take action to avoid are bombs, aerial, grenades or mortar (the trench mortars used by the Germans were big, slow bombs, that could apparently be seen coming). Shells really don't have that effect, the knowledge that you can avoid them but only if you are switched on 24/7. I would agree that the Wikipedia entry is wrong, the terminology comes from the hollow "shell" casing around the bursting charge, as invented by Col. Shrapnel.
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@aarontsmall1975 Interesting . WHAT ABOUT "artillery SHELLS" ?
according to wikipedia , the word SHELL comes from "shelling out bombs "(as in giving out bombs or other things ) . It doesnt sound right to me . You never heard the phrase shelling out bullets to the enemy. It surely comes from the new artillery having SHELL cartridges . (shelling rather than mortaring ?). You never hear the phrase " being SHELLED" from the air or planes. You always get shelled by artilliary rather than by air.
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@olliephelan "bombs" was the term used for hand grenades in the British/Commonwealth Armies, at the latter stage of the war it was the Mills Bomb for instance. Horrid fucking things.
I bet they hide the cases like that today, there nust be a ton of them with the middle-East war....
mattsnow81 11 months ago 15
Both my Maternal and Paternal Grandfathers were in WW1, one was picked out of the Mud at YPRES 1917 and eventually arrived at the dock at Netley Hospital, his sniper wound, a dum-dum bullet passed through his chest and took a sizable lump of a fists sized flesh out of the back. He was thought so bad he was took to the mortuary 3 times as they thought he`d not make it. But he did not without losing all his hair to shock. The other was a tunneller and suffered from Neurosis, not surprisingly.
axelusul 1 year ago 9