@tpvalley So we're right back where we started with there being no possible way the guy could let anyone past. You can't blame the individual just because the infrastructure and the laws are mildly inadequate don't cover every eventuality. The guy is driving his scooter perfectly within the law and not causing any wilfull obstruction therefore the way I see it it's up to YOU to display a bit of understanding and tollerence for other road users.
@tpvalley But these ARE defined as road going vehicles in law, in fact it's an offence to use a mobilitiy scooter at 8mph anywhere BUT on a road. Take any sort of mobility scooter on a pavement or pedestrain area and your speed is restricted even more to 4 mph. The real problem is that invalid carriages are a relatively new type of road vehicle and the huge majority or other road users can't be bothered informing themselves of what they are permitted/obliged to do.
the max speed is set so that they r used at the shops not the main roads, if u want more speed then u need a car or motorcycle. cars pay road tax so pay for the privalidge, this guy is a danger to himself and others and using it like this simply causes problems; now if u were to say maybe they should build more cycle lanes for the carriages then u may be right.
@tpvalley The car would still obstruct vehicles coming the other way, and as for a minimum speed - it's hardly that guy's fault that legislators saw fit to impose an 8mp MAXIMUM speed on invalid carriages instead.
@tpvalley In the fottage shown where would you suggest he pull into? The hedge? He's causing a lot less of an abstruction to other road users than the car is anyway.
@tpvalley So we're right back where we started with there being no possible way the guy could let anyone past. You can't blame the individual just because the infrastructure and the laws are mildly inadequate don't cover every eventuality. The guy is driving his scooter perfectly within the law and not causing any wilfull obstruction therefore the way I see it it's up to YOU to display a bit of understanding and tollerence for other road users.
WalneyCol 1 year ago
@WalneyCol
that doesnt really matter if u know highway code and consider other road users.
If u r going slower than traffic u MUST let traffic past or the network only travals as fast as the slowest user.
tpvalley 1 year ago
@tpvalley But these ARE defined as road going vehicles in law, in fact it's an offence to use a mobilitiy scooter at 8mph anywhere BUT on a road. Take any sort of mobility scooter on a pavement or pedestrain area and your speed is restricted even more to 4 mph. The real problem is that invalid carriages are a relatively new type of road vehicle and the huge majority or other road users can't be bothered informing themselves of what they are permitted/obliged to do.
WalneyCol 1 year ago
@WalneyCol
the max speed is set so that they r used at the shops not the main roads, if u want more speed then u need a car or motorcycle. cars pay road tax so pay for the privalidge, this guy is a danger to himself and others and using it like this simply causes problems; now if u were to say maybe they should build more cycle lanes for the carriages then u may be right.
tpvalley 1 year ago
@tpvalley The car would still obstruct vehicles coming the other way, and as for a minimum speed - it's hardly that guy's fault that legislators saw fit to impose an 8mp MAXIMUM speed on invalid carriages instead.
WalneyCol 1 year ago
@WalneyCol
a car would be able to travel at acceptable speeds so would not be an obstruction.
agreed there is no where to pull over so it means he is an obstruction on a road that is dangerous for such a vehicle.
really a minimum speed limit should be set.
tpvalley 1 year ago
@tpvalley In the fottage shown where would you suggest he pull into? The hedge? He's causing a lot less of an abstruction to other road users than the car is anyway.
WalneyCol 1 year ago
@WalneyCol
legal yes but not obeying highway code; its causing an obstruction to traffic, it should pull out of way.
tpvalley 1 year ago
yep, it's horrible to drive but it's perfectly legal
WalneyCol 2 years ago