Q and A period of William Lane Craig's 2004 Templeton Foundation Lecture at the University of Colorado. Features previous critics and debate opponents of Dr. Craig who were in attendance, including Michael Tooley, Victor Stenger, and Arnold Guminski.
@Jugglable
I have to say, you seem completely unable to acknowledge any flaw in your side of the argument- you failed to admit that he lost to kagan and now you're failing to admit that that's a terrible argument. I mean, some honesty is needed if you're actually interested in what's true.
GodTheHypothesis 1 month ago
@GodTheHypothesis Well, if I think it's so stupid, I won't debate a flat-earther. But if I take the time to debate a flat-earther publicly, I'll try to knock down his arguments, no matter how silly they seem.
Jugglable 1 month ago
@Jugglable
Probably for the same reason you just ignore someone who thinks the earth's flat, it's a waste of time. Are you gonna acknowledge that it's a terrible argument? You didn't seem to acknowledge that he lost to kagan either.
GodTheHypothesis 1 month ago
@GodTheHypothesis If it's so silly, why doesn't he just knock it down? He criticized the idea of hell for so long, thinking it's ridiculous. Then why not address what Craig called a knockdown argument? Harris thinks all religion is ridiculous, yet he still addresses it.
Jugglable 1 month ago
@Jugglable
Ok I rewatched it. Maybe harris didn't reply because it was ridiculous. It was just a version of Alvin Plantingas modal argument (I can imagine something differently, therefore it's different). Are you seriously impressed by that? If you are, I frankly doubt I have anything else to say to you. Shelly Kagan actually adresses that argument in the yale lecture series- although I personally wouldn't even bother replying to it either!
GodTheHypothesis 1 month ago
@MetaphysicsAddict
Have you actually read the paper by guth and vilenkin? They clearly state in the conclusion that their work does nothing to show what was beyond the space-time boundary- and then go on to suggest some possible natural causes. When asked about this in an interview, guth said their discovery should not be used FOR god any more than it should be used AGAINST god. This is why Craig is being dishonest.
GodTheHypothesis 1 month ago
@Jugglable
Was that your way of saying that at least you agreed about Kagan. Isn't honesty supposed to be a christian virtue? I don't remember what this knock-down argument was- so it can't have been too impressive. I'll have to go rewatch it!
GodTheHypothesis 1 month ago
@GodTheHypothesis I've got to disagree with you about the Harris debate. Craig claimed he had a knock-down argument for Harris, which Harris didn't even attempt to rebut. When somebody claims to have a knock-down argument against you, you'd better at least address it. Instead, Harris went on about things like the doctrine of hell, which had absolutely no bearing on the topic they were supposed to be discussing. He didn't stick the the topic.
Jugglable 1 month ago
@Jugglable
I'm an atheist and I'd agree that hitchens probably lost that debate. Although I don't know how many "honest christians" would admit that craig got humiliated by Kagan and failed miserably to even dent Sam Harris.
GodTheHypothesis 1 month ago
@MaitreyaRocket I just don't know how anybody can think that Craig didn't handle Hitchens. Even an atheist blogger -- Luke from commonsenseatheism -- said that Craig spanked Hitchens like a foolish child.
Jugglable 10 months ago