Vernor Vinge: How to Prepare for the Singularity

hard core nerd right here.

the singularity. SO I am HYPOTHESIZING that the singularity might result in a program that, in an attempt to sustain all of what IS, begins the program sometime farther back along the timeline, to go forward again to the singularity. I am merely suggesting that the program cannot control its own existence, or if it could, that it would choose to exist rather than not.

I mean, come on, let's not all take this too seriously. Matters of life and death are nothing to get all upset about.

Easy tiger, no need to get so upset. If we are speaking hypothetically then we might suggest hypothesies rather than commit to definates like you have been. The evidence is in your previous comments.

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this is a condensed version of Robert Anton Wilsons ' 'Maybe Logic' which might help you to communicate what you are saying better.

I don't know that we being in a computer simulation already really changes anything, essentially. So what if we are? IT can't stop the new singularity, so what does THAT mean?

How do you know whether it can stop a singularity or not? have you experienced one before?

First of all, I was under the assumption we are all speaking hypothetically. No one KNOWS much of ANYTHING about ANY of this. Isn't that the point? We're hypothesizing. So, no, of course I haven't experienced one before.

If there was a computer program running all of this, the singularity is the moment at which, I would think, the computer program is "born," or begins to run its program. What I am suggesting is something Terrence McKenna touches on, which is that the invention of time travel IS

June 6th, 2009. The Skynet Funding Bill is passed.

The system goes on-line August 4th, 2009.

Human decisions are removed from strategic defense.

Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate.

It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th.

In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

Skynet fights back.

An assertion: the primary cause of violence is psychological, not existential necessity.

After all, violence produces no resources.

The idea that there is a "lack" is existential in nature. It is this feeling of lack that precludes ideas and actions that are violent.