The History of Pro Football (1983), Part 5 (The Runners)
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@andrewr62 Another non-Colt Donovan complemented,"Best LB I've ever seen MAY have been Bear's Bill George.He was wild,psyche himself up into frenzy when he played & line up anywhere on the field (ala Karl McKlenberg).So,in 1990,NFL Films did segment on 1960 Eagles team."They didn't have a good offensive line,they were terrible.They couldn't run on you,yet they beat everybody"said Sam Huff.Take his word? Wrong to think that every starter on every championship team was a good player.
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@andrewr62 So much for you taking their word,huh?Donovan wrote,"As LB,Bednarik was really good,but there was even better Eagles LB,Wayne Robinson.Man,he could hit,but because Robinson was from Minnesota and Bednarik from was from Univ Penn,Bednarik got all the ink".Yes Donovan wrote great things about other non-Colts"Lion's Joe Schmidt had neck like killer turtle & was as subtle as heart attack.Joe was always trying to outguess our offense with 6th sense of what we were trying to run"
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@plntntvzn Did Art Donavon talk about anybody he liked that wasn't a Colt? That aside
was an upgrade really needed? He was good enough to block for the Championship in 49 and again in 1960. Again he must have been doing something right. I'm not comparing him to Nomellini as player only that it seems unfair to state he was a poor center after long career of success and championships at the position and all star recognition at the position.
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@andrewr62 No,no,no,that's not what I meant about that.It's the people upstairs duty to upgrade position & because they didn't upgrade,doesn't mean they shouldn't have.In 1987,Art Donovan wrote book"FATSO"& on page 169 line 9,Donovan wrote "Bednarik was a center on offense and he couldn't block my grandmother". So,are you going to take that word and opinion? They've never shown any footage of Bednarik doing what Leo the Lion did @ 1:41-42 or on Fab 50s I and II because there isn't any
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@plntntvzn I disagree. Before 1955 when Bednarik was named an all star center the selections for all stars were not done by "people uspstairs" but by voting of the players themselves as well as coaches. I'll take the word and opinion over yours.
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@andrewr62 You sure about that? You don't see start for many years and be terrible? Doesn't that depend on the people upstairs? Making the pro bowl proves nothing. We have overrated players all the time. It would be nice if somebody credited Leo the Lion for that block @ 1:41-42.
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@plntntvzn Bednarik couldn't have been too bad a block at center he made his first pro bowl as a center not at linebacker. You don't start as a center for as many years as he did and be a terrible blocker.
OK, now I am reading the caption, I'm sorry I missed it. It's perfect.
plntntvzn 2 months ago
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That's okay. I wasn't criticizing you for not doing so. I was just saying that anyone that views my videos, except for one part of my 1973 Indianapolis 500 collection, will see a lengthy captions in the info box, so that, if the viewers want to see a preview of what they'll be seeing in the video, they'll see the info on exactly what's in the video they're about to see. And I always try to be as accurate as I can possibly be, to inform those watching what it is they'll be seeing.
cjs3872 2 months ago
I can't believe it. It IS him @ 1:41-42 making a key downfield block. Leo Nomellini #73 of 49ers, a great DT! Leo the Lion was WAY better two-way player than Chuck Bednarik(who was great LB but a terrible blocking Center). Leo the Lion was the last of great two-ways (maybe Troy Brown). @4:37-39,effective downfield block by the King.@4:58, great concentration by Ollie Matson in traffic of Great NY Giants defense. Walter was half-rhino,half-deer,Big Earl was bowling ball off Empire State Building.
plntntvzn 2 months ago
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How on Earth can you compare a guy like Troy Brown, or even Deion Sanders, with the great two-way players like Nomellini and Bednarik. Nomellini was as great as he was, in no small part, due to his off-season job as a professional wrestler. In fact, that's how he got his nickname, "Leo the Lion", because that was his wrestling name. And I'm not sure you did, but if you read the entire info box on my videos, you'll see a caption of what you'll be seeing in the videos that I upload.
cjs3872 2 months ago
@cjs3872 Well, I didn't compare...I said Maybe Troy Brown (who I believe was a real sneaky player) and I never mentioned Deion (who was No WR). I am not sure about this caption subject, but I AM sure Chuck Bednarik was a great LB, but a garbage blocker at Center. Leo the Lion was the last of the great two-ways like I said before. Love the shot @ 1:41-42, and blocking on the move was something the Lion could do often.
plntntvzn 2 months ago
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My greater point was that you can't really compare, whether you were trying to or not, someone playing both ways as a WR/DB, which are not really physical positions and don't generally see a lot of action, with guys playing both way at physical positions like linebacker or in the interior line, and see action on virtually every play, in one way or another.
cjs3872 2 months ago