Ellen Degeneres Vs. John McCain: Gay Marriage

Looking at your profile page, I can see you are somewhat lacking in dura mater.

Chrythotheith, the "root" of the problem is that homosexuality is a perversion. You support pederasty as well? It wouldn't surprise me,
I assume you are single as well, and do not have children? Or are you one of those nasty "breeders"? LOL

Ok, so your argument is that two men or two women should be able to marry if they fall in love, but what if they are not in love, should they still be able to marry? How would you test for that before handing over a marriage certificate? There is a valid argument for your position but I am wanting you to come up with it yourself, you are heading in the wrong direction... think a bit more broadly about the implications of the ruling itself, ask yourself WHY the govt is involved in marriage at all

Chrysothemis, I cannot agree with you more but you are going to have to do better than that. The same people here in california who want gay marriage (liberals, feminists) dont want to allow women to be able to perform table dances within 10ft of the patron, dont want to legalize prostitution or polygamy. They think its ok to say "what people do in their own bedroom is up to them" as long as it only applys to homsexuals. This needs to be an overall idea shift rather than a 1 item debate.

True, but accepting same sex marriage is important because homosexuals are humans just like us straights! And if two men or women fall in deep love, I don't know about you, but it would make me sad that they don't get to be married.

jeffhhhardy00, that is much better argument. Explain why now, leaving the sexual orientation out of the argument as we dont want to single out homosexuals here, it is important that society accept same sex marriage. Remember, being homosexual has NO effect on weather or not two men or women can get married under this ruling so it should not be a factor in its defense.

Your, sir, are way too polite to be here.

Get out! >:C

@FizzyBublech

OK, let's work this out. The root of the problem is fundamentalist religion, I was just not about to open that particular can of worms.

And keeping that in mind, you're right -  when it comes to hating certain minorities, African Americans and Latinos are disproportionately well represented, along with rednecks.

There are plenty of straight people who aren't bigoted though, don't sell yourself short.

Very true, and I dont think you where wrong, just misinformed. One who is wrong, in my opinion, holds on to a notion even after being given the facts. One who changes their position once adequate information is given was simply, misinformed.

But why in the bloody hell would a gay man INTENIONALLY marry a woman, (gay or not) and the other way around? Okay, should I rephrase that? Fine, I believe SAME-SEX marriage should be legal. Happy now?