Extralube ZX1 Copper corrosive?

Extralube ZX1 extremely copper corrosive, IMO not suitable for cars and any other application where copper is widely used!

the zx1 was heated using a 60W halogen lamp for 3 hours

The fumes produced during the heating are extremely toxic! don't breathe.

Looking around on the net i found this:


General Remarks on Chlorinated Additives.

A number of 'add-on' additives intended to improve the performance of commercially available automotive lubricants have been marketed in recent years, under such names as 'Xxtralube ZX-1', 'Metol FX-1', 'PPL Anti-Friction' and 'Activ-8'.All such products share the following characteristics with 'X-1R Friction Eliminator':-

1)They all contain chlorinated paraffin 'exteme pressure'(EP) compounds first used in the 1930s in heavily-loaded industrial gearboxes, and in some automotive transmission applications, mainly hypoid gears.

2)They all corrode copper-based alloys at moderate temperatures, easily exceeded in all engine, and most transmission applications.This problem was recognised in the 1930s, and chlorinated compounds were never used in transmissions with bronze bearings or gears. No responsible manufacturer ever suggested using them in engines where their increasing activity at high temperatures could lead to piston ring corrosion and bore glazing. (For the same reason, modern 'hypoid' additives are not used in engines, even though they are much safer than any chlorinated additive.)

3)X-1R Friction Eliminator and its clones are based upon very outdated technology, which was abandoned by responsible lubricant manufacturers for automotive transmission uses in the 1950s. Chlorinated compounds still find applications in metal working, but their use is on the decline because of health and safety considerations.

4)When burnt, chlorinated paraffins produce corrosive hydrochloric acid, and organo-chlorine compounds including the highly poisonous phosgene gas. Apart from these corrosion and health hazards, with petrol engines the deactivation of exhaust catalysts is also a problem.

5)Unfortunately, these additives give spectacular results in simple EP test machines such as the 'Falex'. As a marketing ploy, a demonstration of this type looks impressive to those not aquainted with the above facts. Also attractive is the low cost of chlorinated compounds, allowing profits of several thousand percent to be made.

Cheers
Guy


JUST TO BE CLEAR THIS PRODUCT HERE IN ITALY IS SOLD AS "CONTAINING C60 MOLECULES" WHEREAS ON THE PRODUCER'S WEBSITE THIS KIND OF DESCRIPTION IS NOWHERE TO BE FOUND

THIS EXPERIMENT CAN BE REPRODUCED VERY EASILY BY PUTTING A GLASS FILLED WITH ZX1 ON AN HALOGEN (60W) LAMP, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE TEMPERATURE YOU'LL HAVE TO WORK IT OUT ON YOUR OWN (probably over 100°C)

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• Extralube
• ZX1
• Fullerene
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[morfeus02]

ehm potevi scrivere in inglese eh

così si capisce si e no 1/9 di quello che hai scritto

[muntyzx1]

Team ZX1 have test results that conclude that Extralube ZX1 is not corrosive to copper. if you are interested in seeing these results please email info@team-zx1.com.

[jollypiratZ]

I have used this in my VZ800 motorycle bought in 1999 50k on the clock with no ill effects whatsoever if anything gearchanges are smoother and a slight increase in power this test doesn't prove anything to me

[xantia12345]

i own a small transport company and have put ZX1 in all my vehicles buses, rolls royce chrysler 300c, my goldwing. i have never had a engine fail in the 8yrs i have used it.FACT

[Josh4Zoe]

Iron is the only thing that will benefit from this, mainly the cylinder, (providing its not aluminium). Iron chloride with the presence of carbon can provide a more pressure tolerant surface, giving you slightly less wear when it comes down to pressure. However, this product, when creating these bonds, can give off some nasty acids, furthermore destroying the bearings, benefiting from one moving part isnt going to help you when your bearings are turning into buiscuits.

[Josh4Zoe]

After more research, I can conclude that the reason its doing this is because a carbon containing haldide is being created on the surface. The manufacturers claim after their "special test" with copper, that its heavier, thus, a magic layer is protecting it, wrong, that layer is copper chloride, ZX-1 will provide most metals with a chloride surface. For things like bearings, rings and bushings, this will irradicate any type of lubrication. I will post again with further info.

[gstree]

He estado usando zx1 durante casi 20 años en mi todos los motores de carrera y nunca he tenido un problema de lubricación. después de haber ganado más de 200 carreras que los resultados hablan por sí mismos.

[rulerofthebalance]

Well d'ya know what? i have used zx1 for years in all my engines with no problems at all, upon a strip down for uprated parts to be fitted i have always found my engines to be in excellent condition internally (i am a vehicle technician), extralube zx1 does not harm your engine thats a fact! The only engine which i did not use zx1 with destroyed its crankshaft, so once again as it has proven to me, running zx1 in your engine is actually good for protecting it and greatly increases longlevity.