Love Wins But Not From Rob Bell's Critics

Comments regarding Rob Bell's Book "Love Wins" and observations about his critics.

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[TheCrossConnection]

@nuticket CS Lewis' The Great Divorce" , John Stott, I read in an article that he was a Conditionalist and FF. Bruce, states in a preface to "The Fire That Consumes" that he shares CS. Lewis' philosophical views on hell. I've read lots and for years so not always able to reference specifics but just make a mental note. The best book I've read on hell and Conditionalism is by Edward Fudge. "The Fire that Consumes". Very well documented and logical. Still in print.

[TheCrossConnection]

@jmprov356  Like the Pharisees of old, you are loaded with dogma and void of love for anyone not on your personal bandwagon. Calling people yahoos? Really! This is your brand of Christianity? Why don't you just start your own "Office of the Inquisition" and martyr anyone who disagrees with you? Reality check! If you had bothered studying Systematic Theology you would have discovered the truth of samsonslmpson's remark that people interpret in various ways. But only yours is correct?

[TheCrossConnection]

@Samwisegingy You are right! Religion is crazy town, but Jesus ain't religion! He is The Way, The Truth and The Life.

[TheCrossConnection]

daboomerang319 You all just keep missing the point. Jesus only got mean with the religious leaders who were entrenched in their dogmas and traditions to the point they missed the point. And Rob Bell is the farthest things from a Pharisee I can think of. He seems a little weird to me, and off on some of his understanding of certain doctrines, but so are the majority of the main line preachers out there. But you should work on your false dichotomies before engaging in sarcasm.

[TheCrossConnection]

@jmprov356 I've read the bible a number of times, heard thousands of sermons by hundreds of preachers, and read xyz amount of Christian books and commentaries but I have yet to come across one scripture verse that even remotely suggests that you will go to hell if you don't believe in the traditional view of hell. And to extrapolate that leading others away from that traditional view merits being sent to hell as a heretic, well that's just more empty assumption with no scriptural support.

[TheCrossConnection]

@seizetheday1234 Your assumptions demonstrate just how clueless you and those of your ilk willfully choose to be. Has anyone thought of asking me what I do believe? No, because assumptions lend themselves better to building a straw man that's easy to attack. And it doesn't really matter that this straw man doesn't exist, as long as the herd of sheep that's being catered to believe that it does. Time to take the training wheels off and do some independent thinking for a change!

[ManimalCrackers]

Wow... this video is a perfect example of the warnings provided in Scriptures regarding how powerful false teachers will be leading up to the End of Days. Basically, according to this video (yes, this is a paraphrase): "Hey, Rob Bell abuses Scripture and falsely presents God's Word to ignorant seekers, but hey! It's totally OK! Read it anyway, because distorting Truth is peachy, so long as it is "just a little bit""

[GaryPeterson67]

I like your thoughtful delivery, but disagree strenuously with your commentary, especially at 4:45 where you state Bell's book is for those confused by and/or turned off by the controversy; i.e., people who don't care about doctrine and who simply want their ears tickled. And this isn't "fresh"--just a few years ago Carlton Pearson came out as a universalist. He was honest and forthright about it, unlike Bell who wants to hold heretical notions but still be an evangelical "rock star" pastor.

[Georgephyl]

@TheCrossConnection There is a movie coming out on the life of Edward Fudge. It will be out in 2012. It is very well made! I can't wait. I believe tha tGod is about to reveal the truth about Hell to the masses! It is good to see there are those out there that know Edward Fudge. Type in Hell and Mr. Fudge to watch the trailer.

[Shadowlooker12]

@TheCrossConnection But, I have seen a vid of a sort of his ideology on the bible, I don't think he's teaching correctly. Hopefully that changes.

[Shadowlooker12]

@TheCrossConnection In discussion about hell there really should be no problems, because the bible is final authority, someone can look in the bible, and see what it says about Hell,damnation, judgement day etc, I'm not interested in what Rob Bell or anyone else says about it, only what the bible says, and if someone wants to discuss it using the bible as source, it's all fine, so long as they are not twisting scripture for their view. I do hope, Rob Bell teaches the Gospel though,correctly.

[Shadowlooker12]

@TheCrossConnection Avoiding false Gospels and everything else just comes with that, prayer, reading the bible in context, asking for understanding of it by God. When someone doesn't teach that Jesus Christ saves and you need to be saved, and need a relationship with God, then he's spreading a false gospel. Also, it matters not about Hell in specifics or if we just cease to exist after death if not saved, you shouldn't want either especially if you actually want to seek God and become Christian.

[Shadowlooker12]

@TheCrossConnection Well, is it really imperative for us to know many things some individuals bring up? The main point is, we need to be saved, Confess out sin to God, ask for forgiveness, spread the word, be humble, be changed into a new creature as it says, defend the word of God when necessary, do right things by God, no lying, stealing, give to the poor if you can etc, I mean I don't get why people make the other issues so important. The major thing is we need to be saved.

[nuticket]

"CS Lewis, FF Bruce, John r Stott did not have traditional views of hell" can you reference these or direct me to where/ why you say that? It would help in my discussions with my discussions with my friends in the "eternal lake of tormenting, punishing fire" camp.