real mevlevi semazens
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that "singing" is nothing els as they say allah (al-lah) from the throat i hope i help you
and excuse my english
3 years ago 8
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stop talking if you don't have any idea. It is not illegal in Turkey.
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Ata Turk after WW1 banned past cultural forms (dervishes, the wearing of the fez etc) so he could move Turkey into the modern world. The real dervishes meet in hiding. Then 30/40 years ago the gov saw it could be a tourist attraction and promoted it. The real dervishes refused to participate in this charade. The tourist dervishes are not part of the true tradition and altho you have a romantic view of the tourist dervishes they are just puppets of the tourist dept.
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i think when something so profound becomes tourist attraction loses some of its wild powers...everone should whirl!!
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Bismillahirrahmânirrahîm
"Rahmân'ın kulları, yeryüzünde vakar ve tevazu ile yürüyen kimselerdir. Cahiller onlara laf attıkları zaman, 'selâm!' der (geçer)ler."
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and you have an idea? really ? :))
so quick to defend, so not bothered to check your facts!
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according to turkish law, (and you( and eveyone else who is in the same opinion) SHOULD check it before you say its not illegal) it IS illegal for sufis to gather at lodges and to hold ceremonies. however the same government does'nt consider it an issue to pick and choose things from the path that it sees fit as a turist attraction e.g. the semazens.
instead of blindly defending something or someone, question! as assuming you know everything will only hold you back!
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Come, come again, whoever you are, come
Heathen, fire worshipper or idolatrous, come!
Come even if you broke your penitence a hundred times
Ours is the portal of hope, come as you are
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Bir tarz zikir buda elhamdülillah ama kendi adıma bunları sehir etmeyi hic sevmem.
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Wow, this is amazing, it looks like they are going into complete trance.
The music is trancendental.
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Allah
vahid
ehad
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Ya Huu
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what u say is true. that is why i called them as "real" among many others in youtube.
desturlu 5 years ago