Mark Ruffalo reads Henry David Thoreau
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He skips the heaviest part of the Essay....when Thoreau holds soldiers accountable for not exercising their conscious....painful but absolutely important in these modern times.
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@eliezerberry The original use of libertarian comes from the socialist tradition. Its meaning was corrupted by those such as Mises and his followers, and the Libertarian party itself. We now have to call ourselves "Libertarian Socialists" just to distinguish it. Capitalism is the tyranny of the few over the majority, and while they will justify by saying the workers willingly sell their labor, this is similar to the pimp saying the prostitute willingly gives him most of the money she earned.
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@AndrewRayGorman You are mistaken.
The collectivism advocated by socialists is anathema to the libertarian. Thoreau himself, as a transcendentalist, argued for the supremacy and the genius of the unaffiliated individual man. Thoreau was in no sense a collectivist or a "joiner". He says as much in "Civil Disobedience": I, Henry Thoreau, do not wish to be regarded as a member of any incorporated society which I have not joined.”
Socialism as such is a 20th century creed anyway.
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@eliezerberry Actually the true meaning of libertarian is the exact same as anarchist. Both of which come from the socialist tradition. Further, anarchism is against the state, not against government. Anarchism is a society governed by its people, not by small classes of oppressors.
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@Rycc1300 Thoreau was quite specific about NOT being an anarchist. He says in paragraph 3 of "Civil Disobedience" that he is not one of those "no-government men."
Thoreau was a libertarian, before libertarians-as-such existed.
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@spiderhgoodlegs You made my class worth going to.
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@eliezerberry Thoreau was an individualist anarchist...
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Bunch of simple-minded leftists ... clapping at the most provocative of the words while not understanding the whole ... they don't really know what they're clapping for ...
Thoreau was not any kind of socialist. He was much more a proto-libertarian
4 months ago 2
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@HowlinJay yes
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@MikeSkiera Good point, actually. I've heard on more than on occasion that it's actually pronounced like "Thorough," yes?
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I'd fuck his brains out. I'm just saying.
spiderhgoodlegs 3 years ago 17
very well read thoreau applys well to the times we live in
bearsagainstevil 3 years ago 15