The Source of Human Morality [2/9] (debate)

"The Source of Human Morality" - a debate held at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County on November 16, 2010. Hosted by UMBC's Orthodox Christian Fellowship and Secular Student Alliance. With Matt Dillahunty and Father Hans Jacobse.

Matt Dillahunty is the president of the Atheist Community of Austin, and host of the popular public access television and internet show "The Atheist Experience." He was raised as a fundamentalist Baptist, and was on track to become a minister until he started asking questions about the reasons for his belief. He rejected religion, and now serves as a public voice for rationality and secular morality.

Father Hans Jacobse is an Antiochian Orthodox Priest, who administers the website Orthodoxy Today and heads the American Orthodox Institute. Fr. Hans is convinced that Orthodox Christianity has an important part to play in American moral renewal. He views the current world as a battle between competing moral visions of the secular and the sacred, and hopes that Christianity can restore the moral tradition of the gospels.

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[Shaunspa]

No man has ever fitted more bullshit into ten minutes

[c0unterph0bia]

It sounds like he's giving a sermon.

[Seriath1]

Atheism is a recent phenomenon???Dude...its been around since religion started.

[TheStarvingSamurai]

@APrognosticator Cause Roman Catholic priests are superior to Orthodox priests? XD

[NinthNova]

... did that guy just say "Fundamentalist Atheist"!?

[Kenlock11]

@hulks92 it's not if it's matter or not if it can reason , can you reason with something that's not there in the first place , light won't judge you nor comdemn you for not believing in it

[neclark2]

this guy started out good, but lost me pretty quickly

[gulbirk]

@rustedromeo MOST (but probably not all) think that it is hardwired into us (objective morality). Some of those people also believe that reading the bible can then give you a BETTER understanding of morality. I think this is demonstrably false. Take this debate as an example. The guy at the left "knew" that slavery was imoral. So he was able to say that the christians who said slavery was ok, were wrong. Ergo, he already have a moral standard, and just thinks that it comes from the bible.

[rustedromeo]

@gulbirk I think i get what your saying , as in what the common theist will try to say in their defense. It seems rather funny that he acknowledges you can be moral without believing in god but then you always hear alot of theists claim that your must be immoral without that belief. I also wonder if they think morality was just hard coded into us as beings or whether it has to be taught via the bible? I just can't wrap my mind around how they view reality.

[gulbirk]

OMG, that was so anying to listen to. First of, the idea that atheists get their morality from their own personal philosophy, is bullshit. We can get them from reasoning and viewing reality. Secondly, the idea that if an atheist says that killing is wrong, then that comes from the bible, is also stupid. >Because the bible doesnt tell you WHY its wrong, it just tells you that it is. Also, if you are going to follow the bible, you HAVE TO follow all of it. Or else you are lying.