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WildTrig3: Spread, angles and astronomy

Angles have their origin in astronomy and spherical trigonometry. Here we introduce the rational alternative, called spread, and give examples from ISO paper sizes to the faces of a dodecahedron.  
 
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llliiilll222 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Hi Prof. Wildberger, thanks for the awesome videos!
danieloreto (5 months ago) Show Hide
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I've got a question about the "definition of an angle". I understand that "intuitive notions" such as line, plane, point, etc should not be defined because a definition breaks something difficult into smaller pieces, and in order to define the intuitive notions most complicated concepts are used. So i wonder if defining an angle is appropiate?
njwildberger (5 months ago) Show Hide
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Your understanding, while common, is flawed. It is crucially important in mathematics to define all terms. The more fundamental, or `intuitive' a notion, the more important it is to define it well.

While line, point, plane, circle can be defined completely precisely in an elementary way, `angle' is really different---there is no elementary definition.

Please see my MathFoundations YouTube series for more about precise definitions. And thanks for the question.
iwantcoolname (6 months ago) Show Hide
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ok so I watched it again, and, isnt this "spread" baically tan^2 ?
njwildberger (6 months ago) Show Hide
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Actually the spread between two lines is sin^2 (angle). That's assuming you know what an angle is, what the function sin x is, and that you are working over the `real numbers'.

With spread, and its purely algebraic definitions, no transcendental concepts are required. Bottom line---its vastly simpler, more general, and a lot easier to compute with.
iwantcoolname (6 months ago) Show Hide
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yeah sin^2... I guess after 1 month I am still sleepy :(
DowntownCrony (7 months ago) Show Hide
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Sorry, I get excited.
DowntownCrony (7 months ago) Show Hide
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Okay, I just watched again and I see now that slope and spread have little to no relation at all because you are using the hypontenuse for the denominator. hmm. Need to watch a few times more.
Viridian85 (5 months ago) Show Hide
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The slopes of two lines are quite easily related to the spread between them. That's one of the beautiful results, take the x axis, the spread between any positively sloped line heads towards one as the value of the slope increases.
DowntownCrony (7 months ago) Show Hide
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I'm going to try to understand this better and will watch a few times. I understand for the most part except how to convert spread into degrees and weather or not spread is equal to slope. I'll watch again to see if I missed something. Thank you so much for these powerful videos!

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