Ken Wilber - Spirituality and the 3 Strands of Deep Science

You may think this is nitpicking, but empiricism and Popperian falsifiability aren't different methodologies, they're both one and the same methodology, that of science. As for Thomas Kuhn, he is certainly different, but Kuhn was a relativist who said all objective truth was impossible. As such Kuhn and scientific method are necessarily opposed.

As for meditation, I'm all for it, so long as people don't try to say it proves their favourite pet metaphysical claim, i.e. that a god exists.

the fact that phenomena exists in our minds as a concept is proof enough for me.
what i'm saying is that if god does not exists than how is it possible for us to conceptualize the idea.
it's making sense to me anyways.

lately though i've become more interested in language though. as opposed to finding the "truth".
i would say just keep in touch with the dome. mother earth. the big round womb of grass and water that conceived us.

'...if god does not exists than how is it possible for us to conceptualize the idea'.

What if you substituted 'god' in this sentence for 'santa claus' or 'toothfairy' or 'unicorns' or any of the other infinite number of things you can conceptualize? Does that mean they all exist too? I can conceptualize me being Superman; does that mean that I am, in fact, Superman?

I'm sorry, but I'm so surprised that I even have to say this that I'm wondering if I'm missing something in your comment...

@sam51092 south park covered exactly what you're talking about with Imaginationland. If you don't watch the show, you should because it brilliantly tackles some of most complex ideas human beings have come up with, or you could say, already exist and we try to explain them. But essentially we do nothing but rationalize a truth until we can prove it or it becomes an antiquated idea, like the world being flat as a basic example. I'm going off on something else here but I think you see the relation

Excellent video btw, every atheist should watch this. Most atheists wrongly associate spirituality with religion and consider spirituality unscientific even though it is not.
Religion is dogmatic, spirituality is not. This may sound confusing at first, but if you read into what religion is and what spirituality is, you will start to see the whole picture as to why they are different.

shlempnar...
Your comment just described spirituality lmao. Also, religion is not the same as spirituality and meditation is a big part of being spiritual.
And DHG1 - the mental does not effect the physical???? Are you on crack or something? That's a completely untrue statement.

I suggest that you look at burtharding channel....

Wilber is remarkably clever!

Hamlet IS physics.

Science and religion are part of spirituality.