Ron Paul Moonlite BunnyRanch Endorsement

Ron Paul has been endorsed by the Moonlite BunnyRanch brothel in Nevada over fellow 2012 Republican Presidential candidate Newt Gingrich. Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur discuss on The Young Turks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/03/moonlite-bunnyranch-endorses-ron-pau...

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[blechtic]

Brothel owners should be libertarians? They could also be liberals.

I suppose conservatist double think/standards would work too.

[stevenweir76]

@LeonTheMortgageAgent - When Americans lean again to value everyone and not just loud mouthed rich people and corporations will they again start to prosper. If not, history will take it's course, and you will demonstrate for future generations how empires fall. It might be an inevitable fact of human nature, or maybe Americans can show they actually have will and intelligence to make society function again.

[Belo118]

@Belo118 animals don't have morality...we do. and to say that it CAN"T be Immoral just because "they are programmed that way" is unacceptable at least to me. that's just MY opinion and i would hope that it never became "ok" to be attracted to a child. they might be "programmed" and is definitely a shame because is not ok it will never be ok.

[Belo118]

@ViolentRiC and I don't think that sexuality is a moral value , as in, I don't think is a moral value that i like cock, or I don't see the moral value that a guy likes cock..is not my business..but when something so dangerous is trying to be pushed as "normal" i just can't agree... and the discussions are about that very same thing..it is something they can't control so it should be accepted it can't be immoral..well i think it can be immoral to sexually abuse a child just cause.

[Belo118]

@ViolentRiC I didn't lie! Pedophilia: the attraction of a an adult for a child... it says that very clearly. It is know in the system as pedophilia..I get what you are saying but don't tell me I'm lying when I'm not! that's just fucked up just cause you don't read properly. I gave you the information clear as day I didn't lie and you would know that if you would have actually read and checked. Like I did.

[Belo118]

@shububu12 I am refering to the not so known problem of child sex slaves in america, minor girls are talked into the life by adult men and they get treated like criminals not victims even when they express fear of the pimp. if there were regulations then it would be harder for pimps to use little girls because of regulations. There has been some improvement but not much in the last 10 years. google Gem-girls. learn something.

[shububu12]

@Belo118 what is wrong with you? wtf does adult prostituition have to do with pedophilia? How is keeping prostition illegal going to make any difference to child molestation rates?

What happens between consenting ADULTS has nothing to do with anyone else. Period.

[ViolentRiC]

@Belo118

Just spotted this response. As I said in my above response, you really need to read my comments properly - I've NEVER been talking about having sex with children, I've been talking specifically, and making a clear point of doing so, about the attraction.

Basically I think many kids are gorgeous. To me, it's pretty much that simple, but to most of the outside world they think it's something humongous and catastrophic/evil/uncontrollab­le etc. etc.

Be funny if it weren't so sad

[ViolentRiC]

@ProIndividual

I know, didn't intend to end up in a drag out discussion about child attraction.

Ugh, happens far too often.

I can only understand a thought being seen as immoral if it's a sadistic thought (I don't personally consider it such even so), so murderous thoughts I can see. The thing with thoughts of sex with those too young to give reasonably informed consent is that the thought wouldn't be of any real life long term psychological ramifications, but the passion.

[ProIndividual]

@ViolentRiC How the hell did you guys get on that subject?

Thought "crime" isn't a crime...but I agree with you thoughts can be immoral (unethical).

Many people think about homocidal fantasies...that's unethical. It's WORSE to act on it, but the thought is immoral. It's not enforce-able to outlaw thoughts, so the action is all that matters in the end. You can think any crazy shit you want...psychology isn't the study of the mind, its the study of observable behavior.

[ViolentRiC]

..disgusting you find an attraction, unless that person chose the attraction you can't begin to make a moral judgement. With this in mind, I'm not "defending it" because it can't be defended any more than being tall can be defended.

Thanks, but I don't want your pity, I'd rather you just learned a bit about what we're discussing. Where do I get my information that tells me what paedophile means? A dictionary. Any dicitonary. As in the thing you didn't look in when you lied earlier.

[ViolentRiC]

..point this entire time has been that paedophilia is a sexual attraction not an act and thus cannot be illegal (or indeed immoral).

This is not my opinion, this is fact. Unless you believe that something in which there is *no choice* can be immoral. If you do, I'd like you to explain what your understanding of morals are if one can be immoral without at any point making any decision, choice, or act.

There can be no "line" because there is no moral choice, it doesn't matter how..