KRISHNAMURTI : Dialogue on Death - Part 4.

This is part 4 (of 12 parts).
These dialogues took place at Brockwood in the UK, 1979. B/W Video.
"When the Body dies, the desires, the anxieties, the tragedies, attachments and the misery go on. They go on to contributing to the vast common stream of consciousness in which mankind lives. Each of us is a representative of the whole stream ... "

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[msenglund7]

If I am of that stream, I am that stream. It is shared and continuous - seamless. As I observe 'another' exiting the stream, leaving it. what happens to the one who dies, I can only imagine, which is part of the stream. If 'another' actually leaves the stream, leaves the content, then must be dreaming this.

[MyRavand]

THANKS.

[selfscienz]

There is a different way of living which makes no sense when you are here. When you are there I want to be there as well. When you are here I talk, ask, persuade and do what ever it takes for you to describe there, because I'm here! If we realize there is now how to get there. Seeing this division in myself, seeing the causes the effects of this division, as I keep watching, I see that I watch myself from there. you mean I can live there and watch me here? Yes.

[vgraham44]

Pain, sorrow, depression, doubt, fear, these are manifestations of the experience of living a reactionary life. Being human, our senses cause us to fall into the abyss of reaction to internal & exsternal considering. To what degree we respond to the manifest senses is what creates differences one to another. the Real inquiry should then be, what is that which responds? Is it mere sense perception that reacts, or is it something outside the common stream of space time manifestations?

[ONIKAGE9000]

I believe the "stream" represents ALL existence. EVERYTHING is in actuality one organism. An organism made up of pure energy. And all matter is simply energy condensed to a slow vibration. Consiousness is the result of it expirencing itself. And any sense of seperation is just an illusion. I am you, and you are me. I am everyone and everything and so are you.

[Geeeeoheffeff]

Does he mean that he stream is all of mankind's creations; society, feelings and emotions and to break free of that is like attaining detachment? To leave the stream.

And once one leaves the stream, it is like water leaving a river to join a greater water cycle? Perhaps to evaporate from the stream, float up and observe it from above, having your origins there, yet not being there and obtaining awareness...

I think I maybe taking this analogy further than it was intended, what do you think?

[OpenMind00]

I wish I was in this conversation so it I could tell K to just move on. Either they get it or they don't.

If I was K I might say to them what are we doing here impersonating Abbott and Costello?

Who is on first? Who! the guy on first? who! that's right! What?

K is just masterful simple and deep at the same time.

Brilliant, just Brilliant, Genius.

Thank You, K

[iamjezuzchrist]

Samsara

[iamjezuzchrist]

Right. Theyre so fixed on the beauty of a god and heaven that they cant see it any other way. As fixed, though, as this world is its malleability makes it that much more challenging but for now it is only just applying along the lines of theoretical physics. We havent even properly defined what consciousness is let alone can we even begin to discern what is conscious and what is not (atoms, quarks). Religions arent wrong if taught/understood properly.

[rajtheo]

K brought the stream just as an illustration that we share( born and live with ) the common traits of sadness, jealousy etc. It is through self inquiry that we could begin to free ourselves. Others are jumping ahead and think some are born with special qualities or already destined ( like Jesus, Buddah etc ). K is trying to negate that saying the knowing happened afterwords with the individuals own effort. Others have set their minds ( their gods, their gurus, their deities etc ),