Jesse Morrell Refuting Original Sin Heresy!

Open Air Preaching www.OpenAirOutreach.com Jesse Morrell

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[rokwing]

Pelegian heresy lives on in this Morell guy.

[OpenAirOutreach]

@rokwing I would take Pelagius, who taught many things like the Early Church Fathers, over that Gnostic and Neo-Platonic heretic Augustine any day.

[poonm4ster]

You're joking right????

In Psalm 51:5, David wrote, Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

Please try to twist that one. Universalism is heresy buddy. No Jesus = No heaven. You seem to be rapped up in the whole baby and hell EMOTION. Whether babies go to hell or not ins't specifically stated in the Bible, its if Jesus died for the whole world or the elect. If the whole world then yes there might be an age of accountability pass for babies.

[DivineForceSmash]

@OpenAirOutreach A Christian cannot lose their salvation because then it wouldn't be a free gift, as it is mentioned in Romans 5. You can't lose something that is given to you as a gift because then that would be a work. Paul mentioned in the Bible that he dies daily. So you're telling me that he repented every time? Some Christians do backslide after they have been saved. When you choose to follow the Lord, you confess your sins, turn away from the evil, and then God will forgive (1 Jn 1:9).

[weareabreedofdirt]

@OpenAirOutreach

Romans 9:11 is talking about babies who haven't even been born yet.

Now in reguards to the verse in 2 Kings... have you ever heard say something like "innocent people were killed in the bombing?" Are they intending to imply that the people who were killed never sinned?

[CBALLEN]

@OpenAirOutreach God had a people that He had predestined before creation to save at some point in their life,these are the only people that Jesus died for and Jesus was a propitiation for these,taking the wrath for the sins of these alone.God is still storing up wrath for the goats until their sin has reached it's fullness.When God's last elect person is converted,Jesus will come,God is being patient until then 2Peter 3:9.

[OpenAirOutreach]

If you believe that Jesus took our penalty or suffered God's wrath, then there is no real grace or forgiveness. If all sins are punished, no sins are forgiven. So there really is no grace at all in the "doctrines of grace" so called. The truth is that the atonement is a substitute for our penalty, rendering our penalty remittable. So there is real forgiveness and grace because God does set aside or remit our penalty. The atonement justifies God in letting our sins go unpunished

[OpenAirOutreach]

@CBALLEN You said, "The elect are under God's wrath before God converts them" and therefore you admit that Jesus did not satisfy the wrath of God for the elect at Calvary. If God's wrath for the elect was satisfied at Calvary, the elect would not be under God's wrath before conversion. The truth is that the atonement justifies God in turning away from His wrath. The atonement justifies God in setting aside or remitting our penalty. And that occurs at conversion.

[CBALLEN]

@OpenAirOutreach The Elect are under God's wrath before God converts them,but on the day chosen to save them,God calls them and justifies them with Christ's finished work,this work is then applied to them causing their forgiveness & belief.It is God who justifies,He bought His own with a price, so it is God alone who makes us worthy to be called His children.You believe that we muster up a manmade faith & and then trade it to God for His salvation, that we are saved by faith through grace.

[OpenAirOutreach]

@weareabreedofdirt The Bible teaches that infants are innocent. See 2 Kings 21:16 about child sacrifices. And the Bible teaches that infants haven't sinned yet. See Romans 9:11

[OpenAirOutreach]

@CBALLEN If Jesus satisfied the wrath of God for the elect on Calvary, then the elect would be saved from birth! They would be saved before conversion and without faith or repentance. The Bible, however, teaches that nobody is saved from God's wrath until they are converted. God had wrath for us before conversion, even after Calvary.

[OpenAirOutreach]

@poonm4ster You are joking right? Ps. 51:5 says that David's MOTHER was sinning when she got pregnant. You need to get a real Bible like the KJV and stay away from books like the NIV which twist the Scriptures and are not true to the Greek and Hebrew. And check out Romans 9:11 that stays that children in the womb are not evil and have committed no sin.