Damn, I should have called it "Faithless in Seattle." And I forgot how the son is supposed to say, "You haven't seen any nice women since Mom died. You owe it to yourself to find someone nice" and all that crap like kids have to do in romantic comedies.
Classic screwball romantic comedies where the couples start off angry or bicker through the whole thing:
His Girl Friday (they're divorced!)
That Touch of Mink
Pillow Talk
(almost every Doris Day movie where she isn't already married to the leading man)
You've Got Mail
lots of other examples I can't think of, plus all the screwball romantic comedies where the couple starts off happy, splits up or gets very angry with each other, then comes together in the end.
I realize that it's kind of sexist to express this "elevatorgate" situation in terms of a romantic comedy, but that's part of my point. When romance is what you want, then it's okay. When a feminist doesn't want romance from that man, then we must presume he's sexually objectifying her, "dismissing a person's feelings, desires, and identity, with a complete disinterest in how one's actions will affect the 'object' in question." Sounds like you'd have to be psychic to determine all those motivations and inner workings, but if you disagree then they'll say you can't understand cuz you're not a man... or you're a woman who has bought into misogynist traditions. Whatever.
According to Wikipedia and an Irish medical student I used to correspond with, "culchie" is the Irish equivalent to the term "redneck" in the US. Country folk. It can be pejorative, but some people have reclaimed the term culchie and intentionally apply it to themselves, just like some rednecks in the US do.
Rory Calhoun is just a name I made up, imagining that this unidentified "elevator guy" was a Dubliner since the conference was held there. "All persons living and dead are purely coincidental, and should not be construed." - Vonnegut
Click this link for my longer blog post about elevatorgate.
http://evilbobdayjob.blogspot.com/2011/07/dont-take-this-wrong-way-elevatorga...
but romantic comedies are full of sexist bullshit so...
pyrrho314 7 months ago
@pyrrho314 It's true, if you want to survey sexism across the 20th Century, a helpful place to start would be watching romantic comedies. But are all people who enjoy romantic comedies guilty of sexism? Do we have to be anti-romance or anti-sex in order to avoid being sexist? I took the brief story that Watson tells and embellished what Elevator Guy might have been thinking, but was he sexist in this fictionalized acct? I think Watson makes too many assumptions about him...
deidzoeb 7 months ago
@pyrrho314 ...In a blog post about "naming names" Watson expands on "the difference between sexual attraction and sexual objectification. The former is great–be attracted to people! Flirt, have fun, make friends, have sex, meet the love of your life... But the latter involves dismissing a person’s feelings, desires, and identity, with a complete disinterest in how one’s actions will affect the 'object' in question." Elevator guy was dismissing her identity? Complete disinterest? = exaggeration.
deidzoeb 7 months ago
i guess your not a fan of garth brooks either:)
danbit5 7 months ago
@danbit5 I'm not a fan of garth brooks, but what did I say or do in this video to show that?
deidzoeb 7 months ago
@danbit5 Does he sing a version of "Love in an Elevator"? (just kidding)
deidzoeb 7 months ago