@ovomusic i also understand that if it was some local that did this that there would be some uproar regarding the legitimacy of this send, but c'mon dude.. it's dave graham. are you seriously questioning his fa on this? did you also question revolutionary sends like ashima on power of silence (v10) or angie payne on automator (v13)? until you can climb v10s, have SENT this problem (i'm questioning whether or not you've even seen this thing), please keep your ego in check and sit the f*ck down.
@ovomusic i understand your argument, black and white, to reduce any misconceptions of clean sends, that if someone's touching you, or you touch someone, it's a failed attempt. but c'mon man.. this isn't a bouldering comp. this is a freakin' 27 foot highball with a blessed-but-cursed pedastal boulder behind it - it's a f*cking scary climb, not to mention this is a fa. you know how many people i know personally broke their ankle or seriously hurt themselves on this climb in the past year? 5.
no way that guy is taking dave's weight. @ovomusic thinks one of the world's foremost professional climbers is gonna let a vid of him being power-spotted go up on youtube as an FA? This kid sounds like a clown. "Go big or go home..." your serious? Before you start calling out one of the world's most prolific hard climbers on ethics, maybe you should step up to his level. Send this problem, with no spotter, than talk shit.
We are talking bouldering, not trad. One of the reasons we all love bouldering, and watching boulder vids, is the fact that there is no protection. Just you and the rock, as pure as it gets. If we saw Kevin Jorgeson climb this problem I highly doubt there would be a spotter touching his back. Go big or go home.
"why endanger yourself when climbing is supposed to be safe and fun?" -
@ovomusic: "If you can't deal with the fall, don't climb it." Seriously? Hey man, ditch that trad rack - climbing with protection is for bitches!
The problem has a nasty ledge right under the climber (remember, the line is ~40 degrees overhanging) and a fall could mean serious out time...why endanger yourself when climbing is supposed to be safe and fun? Dave Graham is a strong dude climbing a hard problem - support that shit!
Dude is completely supporting Dave's back (1:06 on). Terrible spotting. If you can't deal with the fall, don't climb it. Should we start calling this "assisted bouldering"? If I cut feet and swing into a spotter, I automatically dismiss the send. I think most climbers would agree that a spotter should never touch you unless you are falling.
NAME OF SONG? PLEASE.
MrNietzel 10 months ago
@ovomusic i also understand that if it was some local that did this that there would be some uproar regarding the legitimacy of this send, but c'mon dude.. it's dave graham. are you seriously questioning his fa on this? did you also question revolutionary sends like ashima on power of silence (v10) or angie payne on automator (v13)? until you can climb v10s, have SENT this problem (i'm questioning whether or not you've even seen this thing), please keep your ego in check and sit the f*ck down.
evocorp 1 year ago 2
@ovomusic i understand your argument, black and white, to reduce any misconceptions of clean sends, that if someone's touching you, or you touch someone, it's a failed attempt. but c'mon man.. this isn't a bouldering comp. this is a freakin' 27 foot highball with a blessed-but-cursed pedastal boulder behind it - it's a f*cking scary climb, not to mention this is a fa. you know how many people i know personally broke their ankle or seriously hurt themselves on this climb in the past year? 5.
evocorp 1 year ago
at the end there's some brief footage of Dave on The Fly v14/5.14d at Rumney. Do you have the rest of this? I'd love to see it.
JumpinSkiing 1 year ago
oh my.
hopefully this shot was for the editing and not the actual send.
i gonna top rope it and will give the send to myself. cuz its high and dangerous its ok right?
0GreenHat0 1 year ago
no way that guy is taking dave's weight. @ovomusic thinks one of the world's foremost professional climbers is gonna let a vid of him being power-spotted go up on youtube as an FA? This kid sounds like a clown. "Go big or go home..." your serious? Before you start calling out one of the world's most prolific hard climbers on ethics, maybe you should step up to his level. Send this problem, with no spotter, than talk shit.
MrCloaksnDaggers 1 year ago
@ovomusic: first off, been bouldering for 3 years. I've been on speed of life. I live in the area.
Don't confuse a difference in ideology with inexperience - that's amazingly egocentric and generally silly.
Also - it's becoming obvious that YOU are unfamiliar with this climb so...way to generate judgments beyond your sphere of understanding!
thebiglabowski3 1 year ago
@thebiglabowski3
We are talking bouldering, not trad. One of the reasons we all love bouldering, and watching boulder vids, is the fact that there is no protection. Just you and the rock, as pure as it gets. If we saw Kevin Jorgeson climb this problem I highly doubt there would be a spotter touching his back. Go big or go home.
"why endanger yourself when climbing is supposed to be safe and fun?" -
You clearly don't boulder.
ovomusic 1 year ago
@ovomusic: "If you can't deal with the fall, don't climb it." Seriously? Hey man, ditch that trad rack - climbing with protection is for bitches!
The problem has a nasty ledge right under the climber (remember, the line is ~40 degrees overhanging) and a fall could mean serious out time...why endanger yourself when climbing is supposed to be safe and fun? Dave Graham is a strong dude climbing a hard problem - support that shit!
thebiglabowski3 1 year ago
@evocorp
Dude is completely supporting Dave's back (1:06 on). Terrible spotting. If you can't deal with the fall, don't climb it. Should we start calling this "assisted bouldering"? If I cut feet and swing into a spotter, I automatically dismiss the send. I think most climbers would agree that a spotter should never touch you unless you are falling.
ovomusic 1 year ago