Craftingstars build guides: ZvP 3 Roach Rush

# 13 Pool
# 12 Gas
# 15 Queen
# 15 Roach Warren
# 16 Pair of Zerglings
# 17 Metabolic Boost
# 17 Overlord
# @Roach Warren 100%: 3 Roaches
# 23 Overlord
# Speedlings

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[Azuremen]

Please, let me know how this works on a map that is actually in the ladder pool.

[CraftingStars]

@Azuremen The rush distances in close positions on LT (and shattered temple) and metalopolis are actually shorter than the steppes rush distance.

That said, this build has seen success in master league on shakuras plateau. As rainbows says in the video, it can be held off, but it still sees success as high as lower master league.

[Svxji]

Yay more Buddhist! don't die on me dude

[CraftingStars]

@Svxji Yeah, we're going to be uploading a ton more videos like this soon, hopefully with increasing quality. Tips are welcome :3.

[elrohir11]

Destiny and Minigun showed how this is beaten - extra pylon at choke

[Riftlol]

I just tested this strat against a masters protoss. I crushed him.

This build is awesome!

[nostrap]

@symatic reaally? The only cheese that protoss has is 4gate? Then why can't I just fast expand every game? Oh yeah, i'll get cannon rushed, proxy gated, 2 gated, pylon blocked, etc. Why do I have to build 3 queens early every game? Because if I don't I could lose to a hidden stargate? Why do I throw a spine at my natural asap? Because if I don't a zealot stalker harass could put me behind. Toss should not just be able to 4 gate every game and get into masters. And sorry but 10 pool? Enlighten me

[symatic]

@nostrap help reclaim the match up? the closest thing to cheese for a protoss in 4 warp gate rush and zergs have learnt how to hold that off. you also have the 5 roach push before/around WG tech finishes (depending on which variation of the 4wg rush you do). zerg also have 6pool AND 10pool. i like the way you say terran and protoss can get away with super risky builds if they dont scout and this build punishes that but the same would go for 6pool so i dont understand why you'd bring it up

[tonyzigelman]

@Azuremen works on close delta, xel'naga, all positions on metal, close and air close on shattered. the closer the position, the less wriggle room toss has, but the build kinda rapes if you're not prepared. i've had success vs masters players cross on shattered. probably also works on some positions on slag but i haven't played slag much

[tonyzigelman]

@burayan7 you can delay the warren until literally after your lings kill the probe and be fine so i would suggest not building it at 15

[notmke1]

Every Zerg needs to learn this build. While I personally use this build sparingly, and like macroing a lot more, this build hard counters 4gate, Voidray cheese, etc.

It has the potential to act as a deterrent, and might actually make Protoss play standard.

[nostrap]

@symatic terran and protoss have so many good cheeses that to survive as zerg you can't get too greedy. if enough zerg do this, it can help reclaim the matchup. i have seen many terran and protoss get away with super risky builds without even scouting. this punishes that.

[flinxsl]

omg i just tryed this out on shattered temple and it felt like i was playing in easy mode. usually against a protoss i have to outplay them by like 2x to get a win but with this rush it was super simple and fast. I messed it up big time too, let him get 3 sentries out and only made 2 roach by mistake. but it still killed him very alot

[symatic]

dont know why you'd want to teach the community cheese