@Dbusdriver71 I haven't forgot that. You just mentioned Nixon and I followed. LBJ is in many ways worse than Nixon. What's your point? You think I'm going to express my love for LBJ? "Lies are part of life" you use that to excuse any wrong doing anybody does. Why not excuse North Vietnam and China? Why not just say everyone is evil and give up, why take sides? Why defend wrong? the only way to defend wrong is to say wrong things.
@Dbusdriver71 I don't trust any politician, because to be a politician you have to be a narcissist. You keep projecting and grouping. If one side does this, it's okay to do that. If that's you're argument forget it. It's ridiculous. You're trying to squirm away from the truth that the entire Vietnam war was a horrible disaster. For what reason, I don't know, maybe because it doesn't require thinking.
@THEINVENTABLETHREAT I feel the need to ask you this; do you really think any american pres since Lincoin's time has actually told the truth? do you really believe that anyone in the whitehouse has actually tried to tell the truth; that even your beloved JFK and his brother the Attorney Gen at that time or anyone for that matter has told the truth!
Republican or Democrat, there was a truthfull pres? if you do, lets go find some unicorns and rainbows with pots of gold; we've got it made.
@Dbusdriver71 It was jfk that sent over the advisors and lynden johnson that escalated the war. You seem to forget that. Its obviously Nixon's war. The consecessions that the north wanted were so bad we might as well have surrendered unconditionally but that doesn't matter to the liberals unless its a liberal president. Reality fool, lies are a part of life now; ask commander Hillary and her wife bill. they did some pretty good lying themselves and bombed some asprin factories too!
@THEINVENTABLETHREAT The North were killing anyone that helped the U.S. and excuted anyone that was prowestern or pro south vietnam. You liberals seem to forget the north killed as many as you claim america did in its bombings; which were meant to get the north vietnamese to return to the peace table. They were the ones parading the pow's in front of the television cameras You seem to convienently forget these things. Its always america's fault. and I didn't watch rambo or chuck noris.
@Dbusdriver71 You're an idiot. You hate lies, so you become a liar. Nixon secretly dumped more bombs on civilian populations per square mile than ever in history. Children in Laos and Cambodia still get blown to bits to this day because bombees. So we escalated the war which killed around 1,000,000 civilians10 and ten years after they're capitalist. You would do it all over again but kill more this time around? dip shit. You probably jack off to Chuck Norris and Rambo flicks.
cont. It must really burn your asses still. Then, you could hide behind your ideology but with no more draft, your anti war rallies went from hunderd of thousands to less than 10000 at a time. I can see why you hate nixon; you claim he broke the law and yet every democratic pres since then has done no less then him, ask commander hillary and her wife bill. but your ideology and the ends jusfify the means; right!? Life is so unfair, isn't it!? You lose Kerry.
To all you liberals out there, judging by the posts your making your still so damn angered that you were outsmarted by nixon. After almost 40 years your still can't believe it can u?! What must still really burn your asses is the concept of the volunteer army. The process of doing away with the draft must really have angered you; the thought of not being forced to fight a war and seeing all your support for the anit war crowd must have really hurt. He called your bluff and won.
@THEINVENTABLETHREAT I demonize people who were against the entire operation from start to finish even before advisors were sent and then use their ideology to justify their stance. And the ideology is we are guilty even before the crimes were commited; the north was innocent no matter what they did. Even when they commited war crimes they were innocent simply because we were there.
@Dbusdriver71 You said he "alleged" and "assumed" war crimes. As the speaker for the anti war group he was representing. What was he supposed to do? "Representation" is the entire idea behind our republic. know you go back on your statement and say "they were just as evil as we were" Yet, I never said that North Vietnam was innocent. You started with "ideology" in your first statement. So I guess you are demonizing Kerry for representing a group of people who were right.
@Dbusdriver71 I haven't forgot that. You just mentioned Nixon and I followed. LBJ is in many ways worse than Nixon. What's your point? You think I'm going to express my love for LBJ? "Lies are part of life" you use that to excuse any wrong doing anybody does. Why not excuse North Vietnam and China? Why not just say everyone is evil and give up, why take sides? Why defend wrong? the only way to defend wrong is to say wrong things.
THEINVENTABLETHREAT 2 months ago
@Dbusdriver71 I don't trust any politician, because to be a politician you have to be a narcissist. You keep projecting and grouping. If one side does this, it's okay to do that. If that's you're argument forget it. It's ridiculous. You're trying to squirm away from the truth that the entire Vietnam war was a horrible disaster. For what reason, I don't know, maybe because it doesn't require thinking.
THEINVENTABLETHREAT 2 months ago
@THEINVENTABLETHREAT I feel the need to ask you this; do you really think any american pres since Lincoin's time has actually told the truth? do you really believe that anyone in the whitehouse has actually tried to tell the truth; that even your beloved JFK and his brother the Attorney Gen at that time or anyone for that matter has told the truth!
Republican or Democrat, there was a truthfull pres? if you do, lets go find some unicorns and rainbows with pots of gold; we've got it made.
Dbusdriver71 2 months ago
@Dbusdriver71 It was jfk that sent over the advisors and lynden johnson that escalated the war. You seem to forget that. Its obviously Nixon's war. The consecessions that the north wanted were so bad we might as well have surrendered unconditionally but that doesn't matter to the liberals unless its a liberal president. Reality fool, lies are a part of life now; ask commander Hillary and her wife bill. they did some pretty good lying themselves and bombed some asprin factories too!
Dbusdriver71 2 months ago
@THEINVENTABLETHREAT The North were killing anyone that helped the U.S. and excuted anyone that was prowestern or pro south vietnam. You liberals seem to forget the north killed as many as you claim america did in its bombings; which were meant to get the north vietnamese to return to the peace table. They were the ones parading the pow's in front of the television cameras You seem to convienently forget these things. Its always america's fault. and I didn't watch rambo or chuck noris.
Dbusdriver71 2 months ago
@Dbusdriver71 You're an idiot. You hate lies, so you become a liar. Nixon secretly dumped more bombs on civilian populations per square mile than ever in history. Children in Laos and Cambodia still get blown to bits to this day because bombees. So we escalated the war which killed around 1,000,000 civilians10 and ten years after they're capitalist. You would do it all over again but kill more this time around? dip shit. You probably jack off to Chuck Norris and Rambo flicks.
THEINVENTABLETHREAT 2 months ago
cont. It must really burn your asses still. Then, you could hide behind your ideology but with no more draft, your anti war rallies went from hunderd of thousands to less than 10000 at a time. I can see why you hate nixon; you claim he broke the law and yet every democratic pres since then has done no less then him, ask commander hillary and her wife bill. but your ideology and the ends jusfify the means; right!? Life is so unfair, isn't it!? You lose Kerry.
Dbusdriver71 2 months ago
To all you liberals out there, judging by the posts your making your still so damn angered that you were outsmarted by nixon. After almost 40 years your still can't believe it can u?! What must still really burn your asses is the concept of the volunteer army. The process of doing away with the draft must really have angered you; the thought of not being forced to fight a war and seeing all your support for the anit war crowd must have really hurt. He called your bluff and won.
Dbusdriver71 2 months ago
@THEINVENTABLETHREAT I demonize people who were against the entire operation from start to finish even before advisors were sent and then use their ideology to justify their stance. And the ideology is we are guilty even before the crimes were commited; the north was innocent no matter what they did. Even when they commited war crimes they were innocent simply because we were there.
Dbusdriver71 2 months ago
@Dbusdriver71 You said he "alleged" and "assumed" war crimes. As the speaker for the anti war group he was representing. What was he supposed to do? "Representation" is the entire idea behind our republic. know you go back on your statement and say "they were just as evil as we were" Yet, I never said that North Vietnam was innocent. You started with "ideology" in your first statement. So I guess you are demonizing Kerry for representing a group of people who were right.
THEINVENTABLETHREAT 2 months ago