Re: Full Version: Hitchens and Boteach Debate on God

Our complex, well designed creation points to a remarkable creator.
By: Rabbi Avigdor Miller

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[bandwagonretards]

you obviously don't understand evolution then.

read up on the "blind watchmaker argument", which is what this idiot is using. it's an argument older than dirt

[yakukha]

@StupidLittleNobody

You missed the point...

There's a much deeper meaning to his words than just 'science' - R' Miller was explaining how each apple and each seed is a gift from the One Above. Each thing that He created has so much wisdom in it! It's a message to be grateful for all the detail we have on earth...

[rizagin98]

will you give me that silver dollar you deny....... obviosly hes JEW!! XD!

[NesanelS]

@NesanelS I wish you a great new year. I will share some more thoughts after Yom Kippur with God's help. Nesanel

[StupidLittleNobody]

@NesanelS

> "I've already more than addressed your points;"

No. You've told me the Rabbi is an expert on evolution and he's not; he's just a quack.

You've shown zero interest in really understanding the Rabbi's mistake, and seem more influenced by his pithy little christmas-cracker platitudes and his funny hat.

Oh, and "everyone sees the need to be religious"? haha, as if!

Fail!

[NesanelS]

@StupidLittleNobody Sir, as my father would say 'this is conversation #10'. I've already more than addressed your points; all you have to do is look over what I've said. Thank you (and then you'll have a great year. During a class on training for teaching to the not-yet religious, someone asked 'what if I am asked 'why should i be religious?' The rabbis answered 'in all my years of teaching irreligious people, no one ever asked me such a question because everyone sees and feels it clear.

[StupidLittleNobody]

@NesanelS

> "While most don't, it's only because one must be an expert on these specific things."

If, as you say, one must be an expert to talk on these things, then your Rabbi ought not to be talking about evolution; he is CLEARLY no expert! (I could tell you why, of course, but you don't seem to want to hear this. I understand why.)

> "but to read the book of a rabbi yes?"

Read a book on evolution written by a Rabbi who clearly doesn't understand evolution? I don't think so.

[NesanelS]

@StupidLittleNobody So would you share your brilliance with us; ‘O rich young thing?

[NesanelS]

@StupidLittleNobody "I don't think the Rabbi gets it at all, poor old thing"

So can you please share with us your brilliance on it; 'O rich young thing?

[NesanelS]

@StupidLittleNobody While I see someone marked your comment here as spam and I appreciate the help (it makes me feel good to see that others are following the conversation), I just want to add one point here. That what you write about being wary of those who write 'Truth' with a capital T; Rabbi Miller writes as follows (I believe in Awake My Glory). Many of the world claim to be seeking the Truth, but it is only as far as they want. The real Truth is when one is ready to make a move for God :)

[NesanelS]

@StupidLittleNobody This topic is the most fitting topic for a rabbi to speak about. While most don't, it's only because one must be an expert on these specific things.

Also, with what you say that just reading a book and becoming influenced is not a proof; this is precisely my point; that you and every honest person must 'give it a chance. To read an anti-God book, Heaven forbid, he has no qualms, but to read the book of a rabbi yes? And on a deeper level; it's easier to be influenced negative

[StupidLittleNobody]

@NesanelS

> If a Neil Armstrong gave a small speech which didn't really sound like much, would you say 'he can't get a rocket off the ground'? "

Not a good analogy.

If Neil Armstrong gave a small speech on, say, music, in which he said that Bach was Chinese, then I might say he doesn't know much about music.

Similarly, your Rabbi (while maybe an expert in mythology) is clearly knows nothing about evolution.