Greg Koukl - Rob Bell's New Book

Taken from our blog, Greg Koukl of Stand to Reason discusses Rob Bell's new book on Hell. For more information, visit http://www.str.org.

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[gtrjunky]

@ElasticGiraffe Nope. That's a bunch of crap. It gives the unrepentant a false sense of security and it's a lie. It's not a "historic doctrine" it's an old heresy. It started in Genesis 3. "Surely you won't die..."

[ElasticGiraffe]

Christian universalism does not state that there is no "hell" or Gehenna, only that divine punishment is finite and restorative in nature. The historic doctrine of universal reconciliation (apokatastasis) motivates Christians to evangelize because 1) the burden of having to defend an "endless conscious torment" understanding of divine justice to an unbeliever is removed, and 2) converts are much more likely to repent out of love of God and thankfulness for Christ, rather than out of mortal fear.

[ProfNewc]

First, I did not give a list of things Bell was correct or incorrect about, Only this sungle items, so you can't say what I give him credit for and not. Second, if you are the same as Rob Bell, then the comment would also apply to you, that's simple logic, sorry, that's life. Lastly, it doesn't matter how you "feel" it only matter if you are correct or incorrect, and that's the point. The "western" mind is a misnomer, what you mean is "logic" vs Mysticism. There are logical people in the east.

[MindTheHeart]

If there is no hell, then all Christian acts of love and self-sacrifice would be a total waste of time. All Christians should rather do all kinds of wicked things, kill, steal, commit adultery, forget all kinds of responsibilities. God is going to clean up the mess after all, so why not?

There are many problems with this picture. One of them is of course that if we are not responsible for our lives after all, God is just treating us as animals. Love would be impossible in that relationship.

[Canlander7]

This reminds me of the first Wretched TV episodes. It keeps me pay attention!

[MetalcoreChristian77]

I gotta tell you Greg, the background plus the nonsteady camera is throwing me off. You should pick a single spot for your nontheogical/critical thinking videos and then stick with it.

[yumyum999zz]

Hi again guys: Are the Jehovah’s Witness correct in their point of view because it thrusts them into knocking on doors more than any of us? Are we incorrect in our point of view because we don’t hit the streets as much as they do? No. That’s my point. Argue the point of view with scripture. And correct the author with good academic argument. I just don’t think that a point of view can be both correct AND incorrect. And if it’s incorrect, then there must be a scriptural basis to argue against it.

[imkluu]

My understanding, and I can't site the references, is that God has written his laws in peoples hearts and at the final judgement God will see you for how you have lived according to that law. So having heard the Way of Jesus and accepted him as your savior it will help you to live better and gain heaven, but those that never have or had a chance to hear the way will still have the ability to enter heaven based on how they lived according to God's Law.

[Limbsy]

@yumyum999zz I'm just playin devil's advocate here. I have no doubt God is a fair and loving God, but I just think orthodoxy hasn't seen or understood the whole picture. Because the picture that we are giving ourselves is disconcerting.

[Limbsy]

@yumyum999zz Rob Bell has one simple concern: just looking at it at face value, it just seems that the good news, is only good news for a very few amount of people, which ultimately isn't REALLY good news. Like the idea that most people are just created and then will burn forever in hell just doesn't seem, like a redemptive ending for humanity. It's just one eternal reality of suffering. Yes it's judgment, but Bell does have a point that, HEY, who knows, WHAT if they admit they're wrong in hell?