Saddleback Church Civil Forum - Obama & McCain 10 of 17

Question: Would you insist that faith based organizations forfeit the right to access federal funds by hiring only those who share their common beliefs? 10 of 17 questions asked by Pastor and author Rick Warren of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California. The same questions were asked of each presidential candidate, Barack Obama and John McCain in an informal forum called Saddleback Civil Forum on August 16, 2008.

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[tenderglo4]

i understand sometimes these conversations can be frustrating but don't be upset. I hope you reconsider not caring about talking about america . YOU may answer this question in private if you choose just go to my page and send me a message. My question is Why do you not care about discussing the subject America?

[trinta999]

America should be ashamed. 200 Years after Jefferson and these religious quacks still have an audience. These uneducated people believe dinosaurs died out because they did not fit on Noahs Ark. And what kind of god would send "himself" - YES JESUS IS PART OF THE TRINITY- to be crucified? Does anyone really think about how ridiculous Christian theology really is. A virgin birth, Noahs Ark, Adam and Eve and a talking snake, ...Lincoln and Jefferson would be ashamed by this superstition.

[life0is0just0a0ride]

if ur talking about "Seperation of Church and State" i think america condradicts that when a president has to swear in on a bible. i've already discussed this with someone so i dont really need this arguement. plus i recently came to the conclusion i dont care anymore, america is pointless discussion, to many condradictions and the discussion isn't going to change anything so people can believe whatever they want i dont care anymore.

[Loriprl]

You need to rewatch part 1 of this interview where Rick Warren explains what you don't get about us Americans. "Saddleback Church Civil Forum - Obama & McCain 1 of 17"

[FujinKage]

Oh no no. lol Please don't misunderstand. I am fully aware that that is not the case for all people. That is why I said, "Alot of peoples" I understand that people will decide their morals with or without faith but... Well... lol I'm trying to think of a good way to put this. Ok, *I* believe that someone of faith is more likely to give more of their selves for the sake of others like they have been taught. That's not to say that all people of faith would. lol You're right, its a hard discussion.

[life0is0just0a0ride]

Are you saying if you/people didnt have faith your/there morals would drop. i really dont think faith gives us are morals. i thinks maybe things in life can effect your morals and faith may alter them but you would have choosen that faith already on a moral choice. but its a hard discussion because ofcourse it cant be tested(i dont think) just hypothesized. so you may have a point i'll certainly ponder on it. thanks for the question. thou i must stress im an atheist but i still have good morals.

[FujinKage]

How could we expect someone of a religion with such different values or someone of no religion at all to uphold what is supported by faith? I'm not explaining this well I think. Sorry.

Also, Those people would have helped if they weren't part of a faith based organization. But it's not guaranteed that they would have helped if they didn't have their faith. Alot of peoples morals are instilled by their faith.

[FujinKage]

Because America was founded on Christianity and it's important to us that the people we are putting in charge have strong morals. I'm not saying we've done a good job of it, but God is in the constitution and every states preamble. For a Satanist or an Atheist or a Musim or something to run for the position of running a state or the country would be RIDICULOUS. They have to swear in. Would a Satanish swear in on the Book of Damnation? The Muslims on the Koran? What would the Atheist swear in on?

[life0is0just0a0ride]

why wouldnt they admit it. its not as if its wrong to not believe something theres no prove of. i find it weird america has separation of church and state. yet every senator i see that runs speaks loudly about there faith. its seems a condradiction but ofcourse im not american, so as i said i can only call what i see. it just seems from the outside looking in that a senator needs to be religious to be a leader. i hope im wrong and i properly am. but theres no harm in questioning.

[Shahfilms]

Of coarse it would be possible. And believe me they're are plenty of senators who don't have a faith in god, although they won't admit that they are atheists.