Re:"Independent"...WOMEN LISTEN UP FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!!

Some thoughts on dating independent black women.....

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[DaSurreal1da]

@BronzeTrinity Check my vid "Mister Misconception" it answers most of what you ask.

[DaSurreal1da]

@BronzeTrinity I never placed myself above anyone.If my wife is a better decision maker, cool. We, as a family will make better decisions.If this is irrational to you, fine.I've stated the reasons why I feel this way. If my wife has expertise in a certain area, her counsel is very important.Since she's the expert, we'll probably role with her in that respect. If you feel the leader of the household should be one making more money, do your thing. I talk about this in my vid "Mister Misconception"

[BronzeTrinity]

@DaSurreal1da Okay I hear you. Why do you think you should be the leader?

As for your question, situations where men have done horrible things or made poor choices are examples of failed male leadership. The same goes for females. I just think it should be based on past decisions and skills and never on gender.

[DaSurreal1da]

@BronzeTrinity I never said society spoke for me.You asked me where I got the Idea the man was responsible for the protection/elevation etc of the family.Society and the bible among other things was the answer.I also never said men are automatically better leaders,but as society views it,thats the default.I was just stating what is.Not how you or I would like it to be.When you reference the earth being flat, people held that belief until it was proven wrong.Has male leadership been proven wrong

[BronzeTrinity]

@DaSurreal1da For the record, "society does not speak" individual people have opinions that many others might have, but that doesn't make it right, wrong, or more reasonable. Hey, people used to think the earth was flat, that didn't make it true. People may say men are better leaders of families (especially men), but that doesn't make it true. Remember, those with the most power will say it's meant to be that way because they are superior, that doesn't make it true. Think outside the box :)

[BronzeTrinity]

@DaSurreal1da This is the truth I wanted to hear. You place yourself above your wife no matter how successful she is or how good a decision-maker she might be. To me, that is irrational! The one who earns the most and has the most earning potential should be followed because it is more beneficial financially. The one who leads on a given decision should be the one with the most expertise and experience with that sort of decision. Basing it on gender is as ridiculous as basing it on height!

[BronzeTrinity]

@DaSurreal1da This is pretty scary to me actually. Male leadership has been the way since the beginning of time and it has worked? Do you even ask why males have been in charge? It sounds like you think it's because they are better decision-makers or smarter or something. I think the reasons are that the Bible men wrote conveniently puts them in charge, laws support it and they had the physical strength to control women. It works for men, but not for women.

[BronzeTrinity]

@DaSurreal1da I think the family model was stable because at times divorce was illegal, women had no means to support themselves without a man, and they were physically forced to stay married no matter what her husband did. Women were abused and forced to do whatever men wanted because of misogyny, not because the man was the leader. Some men look at the past and think everyone was happy, well if women were so happy they would not have fought for equal rights. People said slaves were happy too.

[DaSurreal1da]

@BronzeTrinity I didnt mention specifically wieghing of pro and cons because thats what people do when they discuss things from opposing views.Why would you assume otherwise?If my wife earns more money it doesnt matter,I still lead.If she isnt down with that ,we probably arent together in the first place.Who says I have the lions share of the responsibility?The bible and Society at large.There is no aspect of society stating other wise. If Im there and the fam starves,its not moms fault.

[DaSurreal1da]

@BronzeTrinity You're right, I cant speak for everyman but a lot of responsible brothers feel the same way I do. They want to marry some one who trusts in their ability to lead, and a lady who expects and respects that.....After all, male leadership has been the way since time the beginning of time and its worked. The family model was stable for thousands of years. I think most responsible black men feel this way and for good reason.