Polarization

I don't endorse Authoritarian behavior anywhere. I have been shocked over the past few years how much of it I see on all sides of the debate here on YT. It is a way to an audience and a devoted one a that, still that's no way to get subs.

Books I have recommended in this video
The Authoritarians, Bob Altemeyer
free in PDF
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

The three laws of performance, Steve Zaffron and Dave Logan
Not free but worth every penny.
http://www.threelawsofperformance.com/


Here are the videos of JT's speech. They are not in a play list so you may want to visit the channel directly. -Thanks to AtheismResource

1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGjZHgArDq8

2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wacK5Fp2Rx0

3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpMVePvGF9k

AR's channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/AtheismResource

Here is the Dawkins vid. -Thanks again mrgodbehere

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBHqGHxBJRs

Finally I bear Trog69 no ill will. I'm not sure what compelled him to defend the silliness and I don't know why he became so hostile. It's my hope that he simply found himself in a triggered state and is not actually high RWA.

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[Stephanreyu]

meaning i was once one of the "authoritarians". and that "evidence of absence" is similar to other terms used by preachers that really don't mean anything or prive anything. was it seriously that confusing?

[ApostateltsopA]

@Stephanreyu Mainly for lack of context. I think the term evidence of absence is used mostly to discuss ideas for which there is no evidence either as an unwarranted ad hominem attack or as an equally unwarranted justification.

As for the latter I wasn't sure what previous conditioning you were referring to but if it was religious there is a high chance of HRWA, I know I spent time in the ranks or at least deluded by them.

[Stephanreyu]

@ApostateltsopA guess i was just assuming you knew that i used to be very much right wing fundamentalist, but apparently i never mentioned it, so it's my bad. My videos on here were towards the end of my belief transformation into moderatism.

[ApostateltsopA]

@Stephanreyu You should make more.

[Stephanreyu]

"evidence of absence", wow, another made-up term to describe something that doesn't exist. Glad i got out of my former extremism, I'm convinced it did quite a number on my psyche back in the day.

[ApostateltsopA]

@Stephanreyu You've lost me, I've no idea how to respond to this.

[ApostateltsopA]

@LokiMythos Have you read the authoritarians? There is a phenomena called the "Double high" someone who scores high both on RWA and on a Megalomania index. These people are psychopaths, but they are far from common.

If you haven't read it I strongly suggest that you do, it does a far better job of explaining the mindset than I can in 500 character snippets.

What I am saying is precisely what I said, not psychopaths, just aggressive in their cause.

[LokiMythos]

@ApostateltsopA you said: " in Milgrim often did not want to push the button but felt they had to, an HRWA responding to the leader's endorsement would gladly push the button as often as asked and then a few extra." Sounds like you’re confusing a high RWA with a psychopath. In fact, the HWRA person you're discribing is the very picture of a psychopath. Are you trying to say that all HWRA persons are Psychopaths? Sorry don't buy that, It seems apparent that the bell curve is in fact not one

[youwillbesaved]

i can agree to that thou id also add the state of the religion at that time and the events leading to that state holds some responsiblity. to be fair they have since perhaps horrified by what hitler did taken steps to amend there position towards the jews. yeh the horse isn't looking to good at all

[ApostateltsopA]

@LokiMythos No, conforming to the milgrim experiment does not show high RWA status. HRWA comes with several indicators, extreme susceptibility to authority, aggression, compartmentalized thinking. Where the subjects in Milgrim often did not want to push the button but felt they had to, an HRWA responding to the leader's endorsement would gladly push the button as often as asked and then a few extra.

In America testing shows HRWA is 20-25% of population. Look to the tea party for many examples.