2011以色列生存性安全需要下可行的和平方案

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[stasisr25]

@montezoma so you are saying that Israel should sit back and do nothing when Hamas and Hizbolah send rockets on our children, this is crazy dude. And I want to correct you, Hamas was established for one purpose to eliminate the jewish state no matter what (you can read their charter) and not because of Israel's actions. Furthermore the great majority of your people selected Hamas. I think that your people's choice describe very good what your people think about Israel.

[montezoma]

@stasisr25

if you only think about security and nothing else, isolation is definitely the solution. but not in the long term. other organizations like hamas and hezbollah (and who knows what else in future) will keep popping up with every "safety" aggression of yours, and the region will be fucked up for eternity.

[stasisr25]

@montezoma you right mentalities can change and this is the problem, today you can feel good and tomorrow bad. For example, Egypt and Israel signed peace agreement and since Mubarak's fall the people in Egypt burned Israeli flags and call for cancelation of peace agreement. I'm not gonna risk my security because of your mentality change, I'm not suicidal and stupid. By the way your goverment in Gaza (Hamas) rejected this peace initiative from 2002.

[montezoma]

@stasisr25

... continue ...

but aggressive way in dealing with your neighbors would not make this an easy thing to do.

[montezoma]

@stasisr25

i was born in 1980, i wasn't one of those people who wanted to "liberate". dude, mentalities can change and arab way thinking today is different, thats why arabs presented a peace plan and if succeded they'll consider the arab-israeli conflict "a thing of the past". also israel has a big advanced army and nuclear weapons, it can easily defend itself even with a palestinian state. com on. the future is for economic Co-operation, imagine how the huge arab market would benefits israel

[stasisr25]

@montezoma Before 67 the West bank, Sinai, Gaza strip and Jerusalem contorled by arabs and there wasn't "complete peace". Why you then didn't claim for Palestinian state? In 1964 the PLO (Palestinian Liberaton Organization) was established by the arab league (which are not Palestinian) , for what purpose exactly?? what did you want to liberate? In 1964 these territories were controled by arabs.

[montezoma]

@stasisr25

if a complete peace happens i don't really see why any country would attack you. by "complete peace" i mean 1. palestinian state 2. peace with Syria and Lebanon. other arabs will follow (they made a full peace initiative in 2002). i want to remind you that israel is already withdrew to 1967 borders in egypt side (after peace deal), and i don't remember egypt attacked you later, right?

[stasisr25]

@montezoma If Israel withdraw to 67 borders, how can Israel be sure that arabs will not attack? I want to remind you that before 67 arabs attacked Israel in 48 and many many terror attacks on civilians. please answer me sincerely

[stasisr25]

@montezoma Israel did attacked first but its only because the arabs did everything to threat Israel's security for example, 1) Egypt kicked out the UN forces form Sinai and sent many forces near the Israeli border. 2) Egypt closed straits of Tiran to Israeli ships which means blockade on Israel from south and furthermore, Israel warned Egypt that this action is casus belli.

3) Iraqi and jordanian forces started move to west bank .

WE ARE NOT STUPID

ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF.

[montezoma]

WOW i cant believe the extent of the LIES. "israel was attacked from 4 fronts in 1967 !!!!????????" israel is the one which ATTACKED other arab nations in 1967 and occupied a arab lands.

STOP LYING