David Hoff 2430 total @ 19yrs Old
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It's too bad that a guy as talented as Hoff ended up with Louie. He got very strong at Westside. But, he also learned to do sloppy competition lifts and expect to get away with them. Plus, he had somebody to back him up when he cheated.
What Louie has done with Hoff is a great example of what he's done to powerlifting in the last 10 years. Everybody considers this guy a godsend to the sport. I consider it a curse.
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Exactly. He doesn't have the "need" that we do. The need to be as strong as we can be; geared or raw. Since using gear is "cheating" how about those of you that criticize it put some gear on and total what other geared lifters (like Hoff) do? Because you can't. Most raw lifters that complain about gear aren't that strong and are looking for an excuse to not be strong. Do you think that geared lifters don't realize that gear puts more weight on? That's why they do it; to push as hard as they can.
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Don't get your feeling hurt ,but from here it was high not real high ,but high, Great lift extreme weight,but high Sorry!!!!
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Geared vs. RAW is apples and oranges.
Im a RAW lifter but I respect the SHIT out of any man that can put 1000lbs on his back, or 600 for that matter, suited or not, we all train hard... well most of us.
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so much controversy in powerlifting, not good
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Actually the guy you are responding too, eric Lilliebridge, is over 2000 raw which is why he is checking the credibility of this guy. Eric is a freak.
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I think I've also read that back when Jim was at Westside, Squatted 1000, and did 700X2 in briefs he said that during training he only squatted in the mid 800s in a suit and didn't really go all out except at meets.
So that 700X2 in briefs probably wasn't done all out, and was probably done at the end of a DE Squat workout after doing 10 sets of speed squats.
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@ptarleton Damn straight man.
Truth be told, I'm betting Wendler could squat 700 raw if he trained up to it for a few months.
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I've seen the Westside Videos. I won't pretend to know exactly what their doing, but from everything I've read now adays they always squat in at least briefs. I remember seeing Wendler asked what his Raw Squat was when he Squatted 1000 at Westside and he said he had absolutly no idea but that he squatted 700X2 in briefs in training.
I'm not saying these guys aren't strong. And they do a lot of raw benching. Doesn't matter what you wear when you train as long as you win.
You obviously are a typical internet lifter who has never lifted in gear. If you had, like I have, you'd know that neither raw nor geared lifting is more "legitimate" than the other. REAL raw competitors do not insult people who wear gear because they are too worried about training hard. Internet warriors like you who have never and will never compete are the ones who obsess about gear.
PublickStews 4 years ago 12
shit you even look like a mini andy bolton :)
Seb3k 4 years ago 6