Marx in Soho at Occupy Philly 2011

Marx in Soho by Howard Zinn performed on October 15 at Occupy Philadelphia in Dillworth Plaza around City Hall. This cutting of the play brings home the importance and value of human life and respect

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[mgsfan15]

@JCistGottMitUns Europe is one big welfare state. It's socialistic, and the reason America is going down right now is because of all the stupid ideas that came from there and are being implemented here.

[JCistGottMitUns]

@mgsfan15 Europe is not capitalistic or socialistic. Europe is run by profiteers who claim to come from both camps. Europe is run by the victors of WW2 and look what they have done to her. They are murdering her. Europe would still be healthy, strong, and proud had the fascists (the third positionists) kept power, or even honest Communists, but no, instead its the same old cabal.

[mgsfan15]

@Giovanni1972 Ohhhhh, that makes sense. America put the Nazi's in power... It's so obvious I didn't even realize it.

How about you answer this instead of changing the topic again? Why is Europe collapsing? And don't even try to bring up capitalism, because everyone knows that europe is not capitalistic. They are proud to be against capitalism.

[Giovanni1972]

@mgsfan15 The western capitalist put the Nazis in power because they were anti-communists and the capitalist ruling class was afraid that the socialists were going to take over, and win. So their ruling class dispensed with democracy and ruled by outright dictatorship, using racism and anti-antisemitism to manipulate the people. They west then encouraged Germany to take over land eastward to go to war with the USSR. But Nazi's got out of control and wanted it all. Unleashed their monst

[Giovanni1972]

@mgsfan15 And no, the Nazi's were not villains because they were very corrupt. Its the nature of the political, social and economic system, and its values and priorities reflected in the legal system, the culture, that determine the basic just or unjust nature of the society. Not corruption. Do the 1% rule as in our society that puts money over people? That is evil. People die so other can get rich. Evil. Nothing to do with corruption.

[Giovanni1972]

@mgsfan15 As to your second point, no I want a system that distributes power to the 99%--most people, that provides for economic rights in addition to political rights. Because with economic power comes political power. If you are worried about not being able to feed yourself, have shelter or medical care, you are really powerless. These made into rights for all as a right of birth takes concentrated power away from the 1%, and allows the people to be able to protest without fear.

[mgsfan15]

@Giovanni1972 Their claim was pretty much anything that could be used to blame the Jews. None of that even matters. The main point is, a country gave one man and his goons total power, why? Because he had GOOD INTENTIONS, right? Isn't that great, he had good intentions. And then he proceeded to use that power to commit some of the most evil acts in history. All for good intentions.

[Giovanni1972]

@mgsfan15 This is from the Holocaust Memorial Museum: The first rounded up were so-called "enemies of the state." Most prisoners in the early concentration camps were German Communists, Socialists, Social Democrats, Roma (Gypsies), Jehovah's Witnesses, homosexuals. The Holocaust killed some 12 million people, half of which were for being Jewish.

[Giovanni1972]

@mgsfan15 Worth recalling Niemoller's famous words:

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist; Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist; Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist; Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew; Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.

[Giovanni1972]

@mgsfan15 Yes, I've read history books, but it appears you havn't? The Nazi's equated the Jews with Communists. Part of their ideology was the claim of a Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy.They were first and foremost anti-communists, and communists were the first to get rounded up (before they formulated the "final solution." Socialist parties, and labor unions were banned. The Nazi variety of fascism is notable for the racialist "Aryan" theories that regarded others as sub-human.