Northern Cities Vowel Shift
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I thought the girl said plaque and I'm from the Detroit area.. :/
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In Buffalo its pronounced "Baffalo", Socks are "Sax" and Boxes are "Baxes".
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Im from Syracuse and no one here sounds like that
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@sleepyasthesouth I heard the fronting of the vowels, and I absolutely do not deny the vowel shift. Amongst most people, though, it is not what most southerns interpret it as. I live in the south, and most people tell me I have an accent, but they normally say they don't know where it's from.
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@PolitcalIslam It's not just an inner-city sound. It hasn't affected AAVE. Here's video with an example of a woman with the accent a while ago: youtube.com/watch?v=G6op3b-Nhz
Y Listen to the 1stwoman. Most of the people have the accent, but hers is strong.
I think being from a place makes it harder to hear the accent (if you moved there at a young age it may explain it). Most people don't perceive subtle shifts in the early states of the shift. If it keeps getting stronger people will notice it.
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@sleepyasthesouth I do know what you are saying, and people there do speak strangely. Still, I doubt that anyone other than a select group in the innercity actually speaks like that.
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@sleepyasthesouth From? No. I lived there for 12 years, though.
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@PolitcalIslam Are you FROM Buffalo? The problem with Labov's research is the he exaggerates all speech patterns until they sound quite different, and then people deny they exist. These things also happen far more often mid-sentence and when speaking quickly.
I moved to Chicago for a job, where one of my co-workers was named "Dan." He introduced himself as Dan, I called him Dan, everyone called him Dan. After a couple of months, i looked up his name in the phone directory, and I was surprised to find he was actually "Don."
At a catholic funeral mass in Chicago, I got horribly inappropriate (nervous) giggles when I heard the congregation reciting: "Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world ..." etc in those thick accents.
bingobastard 11 months ago 7
i friggin like Labov
grzesieksz 10 months ago 2