Lakeland "Revival" First Hand Account Intervew on WOTM-Radio
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@JQbono Why did you allow Paul to interpret the Old Testament for you? You do realize that is what he was doing in his writings, right? Why did you take the opinion of a MAN?
Why even use the New Testament at all then? Everything they spoke of could be obtained through the Holy Spirit. Why even use a Bible at all? The Holy Spirit does not need a book to function.
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@Icannottolerateit I am finished with this debate, a study has to be done on this topic, not just an exchange of what someone "told" you. I made up my mind a long time ago that I would allow the Holy Spirit to teach me, not just to receive the word of men on what the scriptures meant to them. I have been taught many wrong things, and now I study, I meditate on the word, and allow the Holy Spirit to reveal His Word's true meaning to me. BLessings to you.
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@Icannottolerateit A demon spirit is not a blessing. You are taking Paul's faith of rejoicing thru persecution out of context. If you look at the preceding vs's in 2 cor.11 you will see he was talking about persecution. I never take what someone tells me about the scriptures & just accept it. I study it for myself. Scholars disagree on Paul's thorn & remember, scholars are the ones who told us that women aren't allowed to wear slacks, makeup or cut their hair. Is that sound doctrine? No.
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@JQbono Demons can make people ill.
Paul was certainly not complaining about persecution. That is one view that makes no sense. Christ said blessed are those that are persecuted. Why would Paul pray away a blessing? That makes no sense. It was obviously something he viewed as a curse, and greater scholars and Christians than both of us have said it was a bodily illness or weakness of some kind.
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@JQbono If you would like to continue this discussion that is fine, but I cannot continue to make youtube posts, I find it annoying carrying on a debate this way. If you want to continue we can private message through youtube.
Also, I do not follow the ministry of Todd Bentley, I can vaguely remember looking this up and that is how I came to post my original remarks. But I do not vouch for this fellow, I know nothing about him.
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@Icannottolerateit Gal. 4:13-14 Paul is referring to physical effects he had from a stoning (Acts 4:19) & was left for dead. His thorn was a demon assigned to try & hinder his ministry. The word messenger in 2 cor. 12 in greek "aggelos" which means "a messenger, especially an angel". So Paul's thorn is a messenger of satan sent to discredit him because of all the miracles & power associated with his ministry. Also, people were hesitant to accept christianity because of all the persecution
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@Icannottolerateit If we keep our cold or virus it is because we accepted what the devil had to say over what God had to say. We are healed in as much as we believe we are healed. Jesus told us why we don't get healed. "It is because of your lack of faith". Also, God does not make born again believers sick, sickness comes from the enemy. Jesus went to the cross to redeem us from the curse. God is always getting blamed for bad stuff.
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@JQbono "As you know, it was because of an illness that I first preached the gospel to you. "Galatians 4:14
The ball is in your court again. You can admit you are wrong like a true humble man
Actually Paul loved persecution because Christ told us to be happy when we are persecuted because of the Gospel. Paul literally sang in prison a few moments after being beaten. This thorn is OBVIOUSLY not persecution because Paul demonstrates how well he takes that type of "buffeting" many times over.
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@JQbono So every time you get a cold you honestly believe you have lost your faith? Does God not heal you the moment you ask?
Paul even says at one point he was sick while preaching at one point.
God obviously WANTED Elisha to be sick, because that is the way God chose to end his life. It was not because of unfaithfulness.
What about David Brainerd? I guess he did not have that much faith at all with how sick he was!
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@JQbono Your argument still needs evidence that Elisha lost faith. Christ had not come? Pretty sure Christ still healed people in the Old Testament when he desired and it was done through faith.
Actually Paul also mentions a certain woman that was sick but "God had mercy on her". Meaning God did not have to heal her just because she had lots of faith....
All Christians are not martyred. John, the man who wrote Revelation, shows no indication of being martyred.
Sounds like kingdom theology. making the world a better place for sinners to go to hell from instead of preaching the word of God to them so they can be saved. God has chosen the foolishness of preaching to save them law of the Lord is perfect converting the soul
Wiitardhero 3 years ago