The watchmaker argument again and again .... and again ?!?!? The Atheist Experience show # 500

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[Ekit357]

"Aren't we relying on science too much?"

(Three minutes later)

"It is scientificly proven..."

[Icalur]

Yes, why not throw in the foreskin joke for everyone to enjoy 

[shimwah]

@Kayyyleb I'll bet the the entire human population a thousand years ago would have said Not gonna happen if you told them. One day we will walk on the moon. We need to stop making absolute claims and be open to the fact that we really don't know as much as we like to think we do. We are going to find out stuff that we never dreamed of.

[shimwah]

@MsOneiroi77 What we believe is all utter crap. I agree. There are so many truths and beliefs because individuals interpretations of truth are different. Shit there are thousands of versions of Christianity alone who disagree on the same teachings in the bible The truth remains the truth regardless of belief.

[shimwah]

@detroitboy65 The analogy was not to show auras as a supernatural phenomena. It was to demonstrate that what we once called bullshit or supernatural phenomena is now known as a natural part of a living creature or matter. We learn we grow. What we now call a creator or God also may one day be demonstrated as a natural part of our understanding of the universe.

[shimwah]

@Kayyyleb We still have a lot to learn. And in time we will learn. And we may be surprised to find some of what we now call whoo becomes accepted fact. Then again we may not. At least science can admit it is wrong when given verifiable evidence. Religion does not. It claims absolutes.

I agree with you. Until the proof is there we need to deal with our known reality

[Kayyyleb]

@shimwah

Once photography is developed that can take pictures of God, I'll believe he exists. Until then, believing in a God out of faith is foolish and there is no good reason to do so.

By the way there's very little scientific evidence relating to auras. I consider it plausible that our bodies generate some kind of energy field. The brain and nervous system use electricity after all. That in no way is evidence for any of the supernatural mystical bullshit associated with the concept.

[Kayyyleb]

@shimwah

Not gonna happen.

[MsOneiroi77]

@MsOneiroi77 in fact what if these so called advanced scientific techniques prove god(s) dont exist? What then some people will still run on blind faith.

[MsOneiroi77]

@shimwah what god what if they say the Hinduism is the correct religion, or Norse myth therefore making Christian belief obsolete. Lets not forget people usually focus on Christian/Islamic/Jewish religion without realizing you all may believe in utter crap.

[lease2coach1]

Not one of Matt's best responses, I'd say, but evidently he spoke to the topic earlier in the show.

The caller was probably heading in the eye-too-complex-to-evolve direction. Darwin himself, in the "Origin," specifically brought up the eye (and its complexity) as a potential negation of his theory. (There's a scientist: making the *opposite* case as best he can.) But Darwin, even with the data available in 1859, showed that all the stages in an eye's evolution occur *now* in various creatures.

[detroitboy65]

@shimwah "Auras" are nothing more than weak emissions of radiation that are quite natural in all living and non-living matter. There may even be something in the idea that auras can indicate changes in health. None of this means that there is anything supernatural or paranormal about auras. The Human body is an electrical machine and contains enough potential to light a 100w bulb. No miracle. To believe in supernatural phenomena is the height of illogical pursuit.