Goodness Without God is Good Enough: William Lane Craig vs Paul Kurtz 3/7

A debate between renowned Christian apologist and philosopher William Lane Craig and prominent humanist philosopher Paul Kurtz at Franklin & Marshall College discussing whether God is necessary for a sound foundation for morality.

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[jonathancooper1988]

@Slaughtermeister I think wlc point is why should we care about helping each other without a God, doesn't have to be the Christian God if that how you want it but a higher power, then good and bad doesn't really exist, why is helping another person Good what if I feel like killing them instead, there is no objective moral law so it really all about what we prefer doing, when you kill God you kill or reasons for being good, people can still be good but they have no real reason

[libertatus]

The 'soundman' that night was completely deaf to all the FEEDBACK!!

[SlaughterMeister]

I find it interesting that Craig calls helping a fellow human being an empty and meaningless gesture, unless God is up in Heaven calling down praise.

And I'd really like someone to explain to me how it is that God (a subject) is capable of defining objective morality. If he didn't define it, and is merely part of his character by default, why should he be worshipped for it?

[m1chae15]

Margaret Sanger? You've got to be joking. Eugenics, racism and the misnomer also known as Planned Parenthood. Take that Himmler.

[DeandresPerez1991]

I agree wlc made this argument very popular, but by no means is this "his argument".

[M3t4lManiac]

@HonestTechnoAtheist He's an idiot, a complete tool.

[M3t4lManiac]

William Lane Craig displays perfectly in his opening statement that he has completely missed the point of Kurtz or he opens with a strawman. To be good without the rules of the Christian god as it is posited in the bible (a lot of stuff is not even considered) is the same as being good without the Christian god, too bad WLC, you already lost.

[6thwing]

Does anyone ever fix the guys mic?

[MrMohjong]

@Christianjr4 I don't disagree with you that he made the argument popular today but I don't see how a defense of the argument makes it his argument

[Christianjr4]

@MrMohjong

The basic form of the argument isn't original to Craig certainly, but his published defense of the argument in 1979 was. It was that defense of his that brought the argument into prominence today. In fact, all of the discussion today among philosophers concerning the Kalam always goes back to his work (not Al-Kindi or al-Ghazali's etc) on it so for all practical purposes, it's his argument. Indeed, he coined the name of the argument himself (ie. the "Kalam Cosmological Argument").