@GODH8ZZ I think what you meant to imply is that I can't depend on senses without proof that they are accurate, but would need to use the senses to get proof at all. That argument falls because if all senses converge on a single answer then it can be understood that they independently verify each other. What I'm reading is that God exists outside of the senses, and so how can I distinguish what can't be detected from what simply isn't real? I'm glad to see you stopped the bible quoting btw :)
@Powerman3772 I understand perfectly. You perverts say you want physical proof that you can see with your 5 senses that something outside of your 5 senses exists , thats circular logic. OBEY and be blessed ddo not obey and be cursed. the plumbline will never move in spite of your many words.
@GODH8ZZ You really don't seem to be understanding my point: you're using the bible to prove your standpoint, while your standpoint is dependent on the bible. Circular logic is the most viciously flawed of all fallacies: something cannot prove itself. You first need independent explanatory evidence to claim that what you are saying is true or at all authoritative. Demonstrate that, then I will have reason to believe you.
@Powerman3772 youre obviously a perv. sucking on some filthy sin. Youve heard the words of WBC and you are convicted and trying to weasel out of it. good luck with that , the standards of God are like a plumbline- you cant mess with a plumbline. it always comes back to plumb. OBEY God and he will bless you , do not obey and he will curse you . end of story.
@Powerman3772 I call bullshit to you false dichotomy. ''intellect v faith'' plenty of more intelligent men than you ae christian. Its down rignt stupid and ''unscientific to dismiss something without thorough investigation' and Im not trying to convince you of anything. only God himself can do that. and only if he chooses to.
@GODH8ZZ I choose to use my intellect to live the most moral and productive life I can. Unfortunately for Christianity, I can't reconcile faith and reason. I could just as easily propose the tenets of any other religion were true and say you're trying to weasel out of that. What you believe is your choice, but you can't convince me I'm doing something wrong just because it's different to what you do. This is, again, the problem of the Rundle Mall preachers.
@Powerman3772 I dont have to demonstate anything. as previously stated. Youre the one who will spend eternity in torment for sin. not me. you cant weasel out of it with words. Obey and be blessed, do not obey and be cursed. you choose curses , its on you and you alone.
@GODH8ZZ Before you get to quote the bible you must first demonstrate it's truthful nature. And you don't just get to wave me off here saying that I'll know when I'm in hell: I'm not afraid of hell for the same reason I'm not afraid of your God. I don't believe either exist. And I'll make this as clear as I can: I'm NOT saying "there is no god". What I'm saying is that I've seen no reason to believe YOUR claim that there is.
You can't assume the bible is true just to support your point of view.
@GODH8ZZ I think what you meant to imply is that I can't depend on senses without proof that they are accurate, but would need to use the senses to get proof at all. That argument falls because if all senses converge on a single answer then it can be understood that they independently verify each other. What I'm reading is that God exists outside of the senses, and so how can I distinguish what can't be detected from what simply isn't real? I'm glad to see you stopped the bible quoting btw :)
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 I understand perfectly. You perverts say you want physical proof that you can see with your 5 senses that something outside of your 5 senses exists , thats circular logic. OBEY and be blessed ddo not obey and be cursed. the plumbline will never move in spite of your many words.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ You really don't seem to be understanding my point: you're using the bible to prove your standpoint, while your standpoint is dependent on the bible. Circular logic is the most viciously flawed of all fallacies: something cannot prove itself. You first need independent explanatory evidence to claim that what you are saying is true or at all authoritative. Demonstrate that, then I will have reason to believe you.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecc 12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 youre obviously a perv. sucking on some filthy sin. Youve heard the words of WBC and you are convicted and trying to weasel out of it. good luck with that , the standards of God are like a plumbline- you cant mess with a plumbline. it always comes back to plumb. OBEY God and he will bless you , do not obey and he will curse you . end of story.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 I call bullshit to you false dichotomy. ''intellect v faith'' plenty of more intelligent men than you ae christian. Its down rignt stupid and ''unscientific to dismiss something without thorough investigation' and Im not trying to convince you of anything. only God himself can do that. and only if he chooses to.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ I choose to use my intellect to live the most moral and productive life I can. Unfortunately for Christianity, I can't reconcile faith and reason. I could just as easily propose the tenets of any other religion were true and say you're trying to weasel out of that. What you believe is your choice, but you can't convince me I'm doing something wrong just because it's different to what you do. This is, again, the problem of the Rundle Mall preachers.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@Powerman3772 I dont have to demonstate anything. as previously stated. Youre the one who will spend eternity in torment for sin. not me. you cant weasel out of it with words. Obey and be blessed, do not obey and be cursed. you choose curses , its on you and you alone.
GODH8ZZ 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ And you know this for a fact how?
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago
@GODH8ZZ Before you get to quote the bible you must first demonstrate it's truthful nature. And you don't just get to wave me off here saying that I'll know when I'm in hell: I'm not afraid of hell for the same reason I'm not afraid of your God. I don't believe either exist. And I'll make this as clear as I can: I'm NOT saying "there is no god". What I'm saying is that I've seen no reason to believe YOUR claim that there is.
You can't assume the bible is true just to support your point of view.
Powerman3772 2 weeks ago