Beethoven Symphony No. 5, 3rd mvt--Arturo Toscanini/NBC Symp

Telecast March 22, 1952 from Carnegie Hall, New York City


Toscanini's recordings of this symphony from the 20s and 30s show that he used to conduct it with
more flexibility and breathing back and forth, but I do prefer these later versions---more direct with
stronger flow and propulsive urgent force. The driving clairity and carefully built climaxes still there.

He was an early
enthusiast of the "original intruments" movement, and would love the clairity and tempi you hear today in the chamber ensemble
performances of these symphonies.

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[Sorgutentarer]

Agree. Mozart usually comes from the mind while Beethoven comes from the heart.

[brodtsters]

THIS IS REAL MUSIC!!!!!!

[WAMEDJO]

@Sorgutentarer

To talk about the works in minor keys, which are my favorite regarding Mozart, these are also the Don Giovanni Overture, the 24th piano concerto, the 25th Symphony, among other things. Mozart is definitely not heartless, as you could say about Bach on "The Art of Fugue" for exemple -though Bach is supremely expressive in many of his works-.

[Sorgutentarer]

@WAMEDJO Requiem is the only one :)

[WAMEDJO]

@Sorgutentarer

Sorry, but it doesn't mean anything to me. Listen to Mozart Requiem then tell me if there's no heart out there. It's not because we're on Beethoven that we can forget the rest.

[JCreationL]

@NoahSV thanks! It is the fourth movement that is played immediately after the third movement :) I handed in the essay three days ago, I hope I do well o.o

[NoahSV]

@JCreationL I think its the fourth movement that is supposed to be played right after the third movement. But I have no idea if this is also supposed follow right after the second movement.

[Sorgutentarer]

@JCreationL Requiem will be my requiem if I haven't composed my own requiem by the time I pass away. But generally Beethoven's mental state is more familiar to get into because I think like him. I don't know what was on Mozart's mind when I listen to most of his compositions. I can visualize feelings and stories for Beethoven pieces. His music can transfer me into his mental state when he wrote those. For Mozart, I have no idea.

[JCreationL]

@Sorgutentarer That is not to say, and I'm sure you'd agree, that Mozart doesn't have his 'heart' pieces. Beethoven's first compositions reflected more of Haydn and are, for someone who simply enjoys Beethoven's 'heart' pieces, boring. In fact, Beethoven's first compositions took almost more detail that Mozart's first compositions.

[JCreationL]

wait, isn't the third movement supposed to be played immediately after the second movement without pause? somebody please reply quickly, I'm writing a paper due on friday. I'm currently enjoying the music and dying at the same time.

[ChristieFystiki]

Ι have raped the replay button.

[Charod3]

This reminds me why I chose to play the double bass