God Metaphysical Proof #3- Unique Unrestricted Reality

Fr. Spitzer looks into the Proof of a Unique, Unrestricted Reality. It is the nature of finites and boundaries to exclude. Therefore the simpler the reality, the more inclusive. Absolutely Simplicity means lacking all intrinsic and extrinsic boundaries, or excluding properties. An Unconditioned Reality cannot exclude anything from itself (Absolutely Simple). An Absolutely Simple being must be infinite and unique (one and only one).

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Finding
• God
• through
• Faith
• and
• Reason
• Religion
• proof
• metaphysical
• Unique
• Urestricted
• Reality
• Atheism
• Theism
• Catholic

[KeepOnRebelling]

you can not find god anywhere, because it does not exist

[JackBP2001]

In this way, "religious believers" are simply those that believe in an outdated system. Most of the precepts that the worlds major religions are founded on have long been proven false. Theists brand atheists as non-believers. As sick, morally corrupt beings. They could not be further from the point. Most atheists are those that realize the absurdities of religion and seek their own answers. They are those that realize no religion accurately describes god, because doing so is impossible

[JackBP2001]

Now that we have objective explanations for the movement of the cosmos - it is absurd to see God as the ancients did. Herein lies the problem of religions, as they hold onto doctrine, tradition, and scripture - all of which are eventually outdated. Our belief in God, just as all our other beliefs, should cohere with the larger web of beliefs.

[JackBP2001]

I guess I should have asked what your definition of god is, my fault. I personally believe in god, because no matter what science accomplishes, it will never obtain absolute truth. God is what lies outside human understanding. We only see the world as it appears to our five senses, and that means we may not get an accurate description of it. God is what we don't know, what we can't know. Which is why the ancients saw God in the sun and the moon and the other natural phenomena.

[Mkvine]

At least in my religion, what we mean by made in the "image of God" is that our soul or spirit is made in the image of God, not our physical nature.

[JackBP2001]

By arrogance, I mean the absurd notion that religion can describe "god". That they know god's will. That they know god created us in his image. That an afterlife exists and they can describe it. All these things are completely absurd. After the existence of trillions of species over billions of years, God created humans in his image?Yea right. Look into yourself and find your own answers. Find the answers that work for you. But please,stop attempting to prove "god" through reason. Its impossible

[Mkvine]

In regards to the unicorn... Unlike God which cannot be compared to anything that exist, we CAN compare a unicorn to things that DO exist, like a horse, ect. So the question is, how can we think about something (God) that according to atheist does not exist?

[Mkvine]

Your right, the only thing I would say is that we cannot imagine what God looks like or even know what he is, yet we can still think about him. We have nothing to compare God to and nothing to make him exist in our thoughts, except abstract ideas, which themselves cannot be pictured. What I'm trying to say is that we cannot think of things that do not exist and since we can think of God, that means he exists.

[JackBP2001]

I know. Which means god is no different than a unicorn. A unicorn doesn't exist in reality, but I can combine ideas of a horse, purity, horns, ect. to imagine a unicorn. Its no different with god. How was a unicorn first imagined? Someone combined certain ideas to create a fictional being. How was God (as defined by organized religion) first imagined? The same way. I'm all for personal spirituality and beliefs, but completely against religions and their arrogance.

[Mkvine]

the point that i was trying to make is that we can only think of things that already exist, or use different things that already exist to make a new thought. But we could never imagine something that does NOT exist.