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John Piper's Agonizing Problem with Assurance of Salvation

John Piper from "Desiring God" writes, "The most agonizing problem about the assurance of salvation is not the problem of whether the objective facts of Christianity are true (God exists, Christ ...  
 
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actionong (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Ur a moron Andrew c bain
moniato89 (1 month ago) Show Hide
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But read the bible and found out before you speak stupidity what menas to be sure of salvation. i thank God for the faith wich makes me a new creature in Christ.
moniato89 (1 month ago) Show Hide
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the assurance my friend is this: FRUITS.
i feel compasion for the guy who made the video he is loosing his time instead of repenting.
moniato89 (1 month ago) Show Hide
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this guy is lost and doesnt know what is talking about but you see now!! the problem is that he think is got th truth!!
BigVK19 (4 months ago) Show Hide
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well, your problem is that you think all warnings have to do with salvation from hell. Instead, I can think of other way a warning was issued:
1. Jesus was talking to religious types that thought their righteousness will save them.
2. Jesus was warning believers that backsliding will result in loss of rewards, loss of physical life, etc... But NOT their salvation, which is unmerited, free gift.
jesusslave (4 months ago) Show Hide
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ok, loss of reward? or life?
what does Jesus mean when He says.."depart from Me you who practice lawlessness"??
were these unregenerate men?
or were these saved ones?
either way, they are not with Him, just because they professed, and worked in His name, ie, tythe, abstaining from adultery, ect.
and if any man, uses this freedom in Christ as a reason to sin? Romans 6 v. 1
and do you believe in "you must be born again!"
unless one is born again, he is not saved.
are you born again?
BigVK19 (4 months ago) Show Hide
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question - who from humanity does NOT practice lawlessness? James 2:10 says that if you break one law, you are guilty of breaking ALL of law. Is James a liar?

So, in light of James 2:10, if YOUR performance is going to be evaluated in order to admit you to heaven, how will you get there?
jesusslave (4 months ago) Show Hide
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exactly, again, I am not saying that the works, or friut saves you.. I am saying that if the tree is good( born again tree) it will produce good friut.. if the tree is bad( unsaved, unregenerate) the tree will produce bad fruit..

not saying works save!!
I am saying, a saved person will have a new nature..
if you are the same person after God saved you, then God didn't save you.
this is truth..
He doesn't leave you the way He found you.

that is a lie.
you are different.
jesusslave (4 months ago) Show Hide
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the whole nt is a picture of what Christ does with an unregenerate person..

He saves.. and in doing this, fruit will follow.

If you have not the fruit of this salvation..
I tell you, on authority of scripture, that you must examine whether or not you have truly repented, and truly put your faith in Christ.. because all whom He saves, of His seed, birthed into His family, all Christians will have these fruits, some immature, some more mature, but all have His new nature, don't be decieved
BigVK19 (4 months ago) Show Hide
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This is all empty talk on your part. Why are you dodging my question about the specifics of what kind of fruit is needed to prove regeneration?

Must your finances reflect fruit of regeneration? Remembers, cannot serve God and money.

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